Ramblings and questions regarding Fedora, but stemming from gnome-software and desktop environments

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 15:56:55 -0500
Gary Scarborough <gscarborough at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry this is a bit late but I had a few thoughts on what I have read
> in this thread:
> 
> Is workstation being aimed at new users or developers?  And is the
> goal the same for Gnome?  If Gnome is aiming to cater to new users,
> then is it the right primary DE for fedora?  There seems to be a
> misalignment here.

I don't speak for Gnome or the Workstation group, but no. I don't
either of those groups are targeting 'new users' 

> I have spent most of the last 15 years working for one of the largest
> computing colleges in the country.  I can guarantee you that the vast
> majority of our students learned to program in a terminal.  It may
> not be the preferred environment once they become professionals, but
> it shouldn't intimidate them by any means.  So if workstation is
> aimed at developers, why are we worried about them encountering the
> terminal when using the OS?

I'm not personally worried about that, and I think lots of other folks
aren't either. 
 
> Instead of hiding the CLI from new users, why not simply give them the
> option of avoiding it?  Instead of only showing gui apps, why not
> show all with packages being tagged as either cli or gui.  Then the
> user can decide whether or not they want to install the package.

Well, the current state of things is that the GUI software manager
shows only GUI apps and users need to use a cli software manager to
install and manage cli apps. I'm not sure there's advantage to showing
cli apps in the GUI software manager. 

> A package manager that can show ALL packages should be installed by
> default in Gnome on Fedora.  This isn't a distro that only ships a
> single DE.

Yum or dnf meets this need as far as I can tell. 

kevin
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