A reminder to writers

Leslie S Satenstein lsatenstein at yahoo.com
Mon May 13 18:13:38 UTC 2013


Please be kind enough to include (quote) the original text in messages to the group.  

The idioms followup message (which by chance, I happened to view before this email) was confusing and out of context to me.


As for using the word see,  In French, it is a verb  (Voir), which means to physically see.

We would translate the English in documents see to French as  "refer to .... " (référer à) 

 
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 Leslie

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>________________________________
> From: Chris Murphy <lists at colorremedies.com>
>To: wb8rcr at arrl.net; For participants of the Documentation Project <docs at lists.fedoraproject.org> 
>Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 12:00 PM
>Subject: Re: A reminder to writers
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>On May 13, 2013, at 6:58 AM, John J. McDonough <wb8rcr at arrl.net> wrote:
>
>> Within our documentation, we do not like to over use the word "see" as
>> this can be an uncomfortable reminder to visually impaired readers.  It
>> is especially challenging in the Release Notes as almost every other
>> paragraph tends to refer the reader to an external link.  The result is
>> paragraph after paragraph of "for details see ..." or "for more
>> information see …".
>
>The examples are idioms, they aren't meant to be taken so literally as to connote "vision required". 
>
>Using the above proposed logic, the saying "I'm happy to see you" would cause a blind person to become uncomfortable. This is silly.
>
>Blind people themselves say they "watch TV" and they "read books", and so on. The word see does not make them uncomfortable.
>
>> Instead of "see", it is preferable to use terms like "refer to", "may be
>> found at" or other terms that do not imply a particular way of reading.
>> When referencing some user-visible change, exchange terms like "users
>> will see improved performance" for phrases like "users will notice
>> improved performance".
>> 
>> Simply being alert to this also helps make the prose a little less
>> repetitive.
>
>Making the prose less repetitive and idiomatic, is valid. It makes translation far easier and more accurate.
>
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