[FAmSCo] Igor Pires Soares as a new Mentor for Latam

susmit shannigrahi thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com
Fri Mar 12 16:37:27 UTC 2010

> Yes, by now Igor is keeping the focus only in some projects that he is
> leading/participating.

As I said, he is doing great in L10N.
But that does not qualify him for ambassadors mentor.

> If I'm correct, the MENTORS has a regional focus and Igor is very active
> in our region, with a great communication skills in Portuguese and
> English. It's in the same case like you recommended Bochecha as an EMEA
> local mentor (with focus on France speakers).

Bochecha *is* active ambassadors channels. Googling will show you that.
Also, we have not decided on that either.

> We can't measure the level of contribution/skill of one person based on
> the frequency of that person stay online on IRC or mail lists.

Of course not. But when a certain person does not send a *single* mail
or does not say a *single* line on the lists/irc for a couple of
years, I don't think he is interested enough (if at all) in the

> A lot of people are all days in our mail lists and IRC channels talking
> jokes, sending kisses and hugs and aren't doing a real contribution to
> Fedora, so, are they more able to be a Mentor than one active member of
> our projects/teams ?

I am sorry to say this, but making bad reference to/ hitting at other
people does not make your point any stronger. This is not the first
time you made these comments, but _please_ restrain yourself from
making these comments, if possible. We don't dictate people what they
should or should not do. Let them do whatever they are doing as long
as that does not go beyond limits. If you think that some
conversations in the mailing list/irc are really bad and should not
happen, raise that to FAmSCo meeting. So far, you have not raised any
such concerns.

> As Linus Torvalds said, talk is cheap, show me the code!

Indeed. Show me the work he did for ambassadors project, you will have my +1.

> He can frequently participate in IRC and Mktg lists since he have a role
> where it is needed.
> You and Susmit are confusing two terms: MENTOR x SPONSOR.

No, I am not.

> I did not recommend Igor as SPONSOR as quoted in your emails, I
> requested that he be accepted as MENTOR.

Yes, I understand that you requested that he be accepted as mentor but
without credible proof of work, which I don't find, I stick to my -1.

> IMHO, Igor is completely able because he is guiding many people throw
> the localization team by years and has invited and guide some guys in
> that team to the ambassadors project.

Of course he can, but given that the freedom we give to mentors, we
can not make anyone mentor without proven records. As I said, let him
prove his worth in ambassadors project as he did in L10N and I shall
be more than happy to give him my +1.

> I think is very important to have more one guy working with me in that
> transitional time.
> This week I officially leave Red Hat Latam and I will stay here only as
> contributor, so I will not have the same time available to work on the
> Fedora Project as before.
> I believe in the leaderless organizations and shared leadership. The
> Fedora Project must to be a starfish and not a spyder :-)

My vote will go to someone with more contributions in ambassadors project.
At this moment, I still think Igor does not fit in the mentoring position.




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