[Ambassadors] Urgent Matter

[Patrick Boutilier]

On 08/30/2010 05:43 PM, Ryan Rix wrote:
> On Mon 30 August 2010 13:22:51 Manuel Escudero wrote:
>> I have installed Fedora 13 Goddard x86_64 in my machine and I've updated to
>> KDE 4.5, in order to run Skype I installed some 32 bit Qt libraries and
>> when I installed the new KDE desktop I had to remove them because KDE 4.4
>> uses the "1:4.6" version of these libraries and KDE 4.5 the "1:4.7"...
>> Now I have KDE 4.5 and everything is fine but I can't run lastest Skype
>> because it needs the "1:4.6" Qt libraries, it doesn't work with the new
>> ones, but if I remove the new ones and I replace them with
>> the older ones, many apps seem to be "downgraded" or they just don't work
>> anymore...
>> Does this mean we're not having Skype in Fedora 14 KDE Spin as it's going
>> to be based on KDE 4.5?
>>
>> Many users need skype (in my case I'm running it in a Windows 7 VM) But
>> without it we can't offer reliable "Videocalls" as they're not implemented
>> in IM Clients Linux have.
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> So, a few things here...
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> This isn't Ambassadors material, please keep it either on the users@ list or
> (probably better) the kde@ list, where most KDE and Qt issues are handled.
> This is most definitely not the place for it, "urgent" or not.
>
> Skype is indeed NOT going to be on the Fedora 14 KDE Spin as it is non-Free
> software. From my PoV, it's harmful for Ambassadors to promote the use of this
> software as it encourages lock in to proprietary applications and (probably
> worse) proprietary protocols. Also, as you can see by your mail, using
> proprietary applications can be more than a "philosophical" issue, given the
> breakage you caused yourself by installing it. Imagine telling a new user how
> to do this, and realizing they have just broken or messed up their
> installation. Does it really put our distribution in a positive light? You
> should be encouraging users to embrace Free solutions such as Ekiga softphone,
> Pidgin and other SIP-based solutions which can be properly packaged for our
> distribution.
>
> Lastly, Qt is supposed to be backwards compatible, meaning that applications
> compiled in Qt 4.6 are supposed to work in Qt 4.7, etc... If you have
> encountered a regression, file a bug at Nokia's Qt bug tracker[1], and let the
> KDE Fedora list know of the issue. This is not the place to discuss such
> issues.
>
> [1]: http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/

Not to promote Skype, but I have no problems running Skype with:

qt-4.7.0-0.27.rc1.fc13.x86_64
qt-4.7.0-0.27.rc1.fc13.i686


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