KMail2
Nikita Bige
big-nikita at yandex.ru
Wed Feb 1 05:31:05 UTC 2012
I have to say "metoo"
I have all these problems and one more
Automatic filtering incoming mails doesn't work at all, I have to select new
messages and apply filters manually.
And the migration process has been terrible.
On Tuesday 31 January 2012 13:59:24 Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Tuesday 31 January 2012 12:53:41 Timothy Murphy wrote:
> > Is anybody using KMail2, or has everyone given up on it?
>
> I'm still using it --- you're not alone. :-)
>
> > I've asked several questions about it,
> > eg I cannot create top-level folders,
>
> I can only add a "metoo". I can create a subfolder no problem, but I confirm
> that top-level doesn't work.
>
> > there are curious sub-folders created when migrating from KMail,
>
> Back when I migrated my mail it somehow did work, and I haven't tried since.
> Although I remember I had some trouble finding out precisely *how* to
> migrate, ie. how to change the default local mail folder.
>
> > the Tools=>Find Messages facility does not seem to work.
>
> Metoo. But I rarely use the search, if ever. When I need it, I open a
> terminal, and do a
>
> grep -r searchphrase ~/mymail
>
> :-)
> :
> > I just wondered if the reason I haven't had any responses
>
> Maybe nobody has anything helpful to say? ;-)
>
> As for myself, note that my usage of mail client is quite simplistic with
> well-organized mail subfolders, so I rarely need to create a top-level
> maildir, or perform searches. I didn't know these problems existed until I
> saw your post and tested.
>
> > is that everyone has gone back to the previous version of KMail?
>
> Is that even possible?! Anyway, no, I'm waiting for KDE4.8 to arrive to F16
> stable --- that has a fix for the "not filtering sent mail" bug, which is
> basically the only thing bugging me with KMail2. Hopefully some of the bugs
> you mentioned are also fixed.
>
> AFAIK, most KMail2 bugs and terrible functionality regressions came about
> when the actual control over the e-mail storage was delegated to akonadi.
> Back when the old KMail was handling mail storage on its own, everything
> was smooth, fast and Just Worked. But since akonadi took control over
> e-mail storage...
>
> ...I see duplicate new messages all over the place --- when I click on the
> first, something wakes up in the background and the second copy disappears
> after a few seconds (but not always)...
>
> ...there are "ghost" e-mails --- the number of unread messages next to some
> folders reports 1 or 2 unread messages, but there aren't any inside...
>
> ...search doesn't work...
>
> ...often it is necessary to "update folder" from the folder's popup menu
> (whatever that updating means) or otherwise some messages get lost in the
> "limbo" somewhere and don't get listed inside a directory...
>
> ...during the (POP3) download of e-mails from the server, messages get into
> the inbox, then get automatically filtered to various subfolders, then get
> back into inbox again and finally get filtered into subfolders once more,
> before settling down --- the whole process takes several seconds of
> shuffling messages back and forth, with intensive cpu activity...
>
> ...deleting a message from a folder takes a whole second to complete, and
> cpu spikes during that time...
>
> ...and so on... ;-)
>
> All in all, IMHO the move to akonadi was a Bad Idea --- I have a feeling
> that KMail2 itself is not responsible for any of the above issues. Rather,
> akonadi seems to be handling e-mail in a very unoptimized way. The old
> KMail handled all this on its own, in a much better, cleaner and faster
> way. But due to someone's idea of "integration of e-mail with the rest of
> KDE", all mail handling has been moved to an akonadi database --- a "cannon
> to kill a fly" scenario. I see no practical benefit, while functionality
> has been degraded several times over.
>
> But I can live with it, for now. I'm too used to KMail's user interface, and
> migrating to another client is not worth the time to relearn&customize it
> to my preference.
>
> Waiting for 4.8 and hoping for the best... :-)
>
> HTH, :-)
> Marko
>
>
>
>
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Nikita
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