F22 blocker/freeze exception review: on-list? in-bug? special meeting?

[Adam Williamson]

On Wed, 2015-05-13 at 11:53 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 05/13/15 11:27, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2015-05-13 at 07:53 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > On 05/13/15 07:45, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2015-05-13 at 00:26 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > > > > If, and I say if since I've not tested, this fixes the 
> > > > > > session 
> > > > > > restore issues of Plasma 5 then to me it is a *must* for 
> > > > > > F22 
> > > > > > release.
> > > > > Ditto.
> > > > Session restore doesn't seem like a great FE candidate, since 
> > > > people
> > > > don't usually use sessions on live images. Post-install issues 
> > > > like
> > > > that can be handled fine with updates; the update will be 
> > > > available as
> > > > a 0-day if karma'ed.
> > > I suppose I may have mis-understood the question.  As I didn't 
> > > read 
> > > this as being "live image" centric.
> > Basically, things that can't be fixed with updates are the prime
> > candidates for blocker/FE status. So, installer bugs, bugs that are
> > visible when booted live, and kernel/X/etc. showstoppers which 
> > would
> > prevent you getting an install done.
> > 
> > Issues that are apparent only after install *can* be blocker/FE 
> > bugs,
> > but there's a higher bar for it.
> > 
> > > I generally don't use/test the Live images all that much.  But, 
> > > if 
> > > folks use the Live images as a way of deciding if they will use 
> > > the 
> > > release and if the Live image supports logging out/in.....then I 
> > > still feel it is a must.
> > You *can* log out / log in on the live image, but it's not 
> > something
> > that's very commonly used, I don't think.
> > 
> > > One question.  Would a netinstall eliminate the need to install 
> > > and 
> > > then update to get the fix?
> > A default netinstall would, yes - by default network installs use 
> > the
> > updates repository as a package source. You can disable it, but 
> > that
> > takes effort.
> > 
> > Immediately after installing from the live image the bug would be
> > present, but it'd be solved on the first update.
> 
> OK....  I looked at the link
> 
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kf5-plasma-5.10.0-2.fc22
> 
> and it seems quite a few packages are updated for this.  Is there a 
> repo somewhere with all the packages so that they can be tested now?
>   I don't think they are in updates-testing....at least not when I 
> checked last. 

Not until the updates-testing push, no. You can use 'bodhi -D' to
download the update up until then.
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