[Fedora-spins] Netizen Spin

[Corey Leong]

Greetings David --

Thanks for the concern. The organization I am proposing is in two parts:
within the kickstart file which should not be an issue, I believe, and two,
within the app launcher menu. I expect dnf, yum, and the software
management tool to operate as usual for users without any issues.

An alternate way of thinking may take be needed, however, I intend to keep
it as simple as possible.

--Corey




On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:30 PM, David Green <crokett at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Hello Corey
>
> I'm having a bit of a problem with the concept.  When you say organize
> packages differently. do you mean that if you went to the Package Manager
> software would be grouped according to Maslow's hierarchy, rather than the
> normal Security, Office, etc?  If so I would think this is going to be
> confusing to a lot of people to find what packages they need.
>
> David Green
>
>
>
> On 05/20/2015 01:58 PM, Corey Leong wrote:
>
>  Greetings Matthew --
>
>  That's a negative. No package defaults will be changed from their
> defaults. The overall intention is the organization of the software and,
> perhaps, how they are presented to the user. I am interested in organizing
> by users' psychological needs rather than the typical applications
> categories. I focused on security first since physiological needs obviously
> do not exist in a digital space which contradicts Maslow's HoN. For
> example, security, safety, social, design, etc would be application
> categories rather than office, system, utilities, for instance, which need
> ergonomic improvement, in my opinion. Simply, same fedora software with all
> original defaults, but organized in an alternative and improved application
> taxonomy for users for promoting online citizenship.
>
>  For the scope section's appearance, I was not certain how to address this
> since trademarking and marketing will play roles in the spin, at least
> according to the original spin process doc. I've always considered the
> Sugar on a Stick a wonderful theme especially for kids so perhaps a citizen
> type theme would be an ideal for Netizen. I have not begun to develop a
> citizen theme since I have been waiting since January for my spin to be
> wrangled while also waiting for some type of feedback. I am open to working
> with marketing for a fitting theme, Matthew, or providing one myself, if
> need be.
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  --Corey
>
>  PS I would concur that the published spin process is broken, as
> suggested by another on this list.
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm at fedoraproject.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 02:56:46PM -0400, Corey Leong wrote:
>> > The change request page can be found here:
>> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Netizen_Spin
>> > The spin page is located here:
>> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Netizen_Spin
>>
>> I assume that this spin would involve shipping some software in Fedora
>> with defaults significantly other than their defaults overall or in
>> Fedora Workstation. If so, let's talk about that.
>>
>> Right now, the "scope" section suggests that this will primarily be an
>> _appearance_ thing — or at least, look-and-feel. I'm afraid that this
>> might actually be somewhat deceptive, if that's the case — people might
>> assume that the goal is similar to that of stand-alone distributions
>> aimed at privacy/anonymity, like Tails.
>>
>> --
>> Matthew Miller
>> <mattdm at fedoraproject.org>
>> Fedora Project Leader
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>
> David Green
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Corey Leong, M.N.M., M.A.*
PO Box 691871
Orlando, FL 32869

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