Test Day page

[Noriko Mizumoto]

(2012年08月28日 17:57), Ankitkumar Rameshchandra Patel wrote:
> On 08/28/2012 12:56 PM, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
>> (2012年08月28日 15:46), Ankitkumar Rameshchandra Patel wrote:
>>> On 08/28/2012 10:34 AM, Noriko Mizumoto wrote:
>>>> (2012年08月28日 13:37), Ani Peter wrote:
>>>>> Thank you Noriko for asking. The package list is ready and the page
>>>>> will be updated soon with all details.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Ani
>>>>
>>>> Now can I have one favour?
>>>> With last l10n test, we have had a bit bitter experience. When a
>>>> translator tried to write in the test result in Matrix section by
>>>> editing wiki page, he/she failed to do so if another translator did
>>>> write in his report same time. Some poor translators experienced this
>>>> problem numerous times, which demotivated translators to take a test.
>>>> Wiki page is not supposed to be edited by multiple persons in 
>>>> parallel,
>>>> but this is atm only way for us.
>>>> Therefore, I like to propose a work around that this section to be
>>>> divided into multiple sections. This does not resolve the problem, but
>>>> can ease the traffic a bit I hope. It would be much appreciated if 
>>>> this
>>>> is considered.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This issue was considered and discussed if I remember correctly. We are
>>> planning to have wiki pages for each language with default test page
>>> templates, so the problem would never appear again.
>>>
>>> Thanks for bringing this though!
>>
>> Umm... I have one concern on this plan.
>> If we have multiple pages, then each of us needs to check other pages
>> bug sections if a problem encountered has already been filed as bug or
>> not. Otherwise we may have great number of duplicate bugs, no??
>
> Bug filing should be done end of the testing event I think.

It may depend on a translator how he/she wanna go... in fact, I file a 
bug as I go.

>
> Also bugzill workflow states the fist step as:
> * Search for equivalent existing bugs before filing a new bug

You are absolutely right, however it is time consuming task searching a 
bug is. Especially it would become considerable amount of time at the 
end, since searching is not only for one bug but generally more. Current 
format is useful because a translator can see bugs at a glance without 
searching, so that many of translators can save searching time.

I prefer Ani's suggestion of creating wiki page for each application.
 > In that case, what about creating wiki page for each application? But 
then again:
 > 1. will end up in creating many wiki pages. This does not happen 
while creating pages per language.
 > 2. multiple users will login to a wiki page at a time.

Or, creating wiki page per a couple of applications may reduce the 
number of pages (solve the problem#1 above), as well can  help 
distribute the traffic. I think...

noriko

>
> However, as we know, we might duplicate bugs, where bug triaging would
> come into place and help upto some extent. I do not seem to find any
> other better solution in order to avoid the problem of multiple testers
> updating the same wiki page at the same time! :(
>
> Thanks!