When to rebrand fedora?

[Bryan Kearney]

Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 16:36 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>> Paul W. Frields wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 09:48 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>>>> Since we're on the topic, I've also suggested on the "new trademark 
>>>> policy" wiki page[1], that rebranding should not be required in case you 
>>>> hand out a presentation or demo in case of an ISV, if you have built it 
>>>> upon Fedora and are simply handing it out to attendees of your session 
>>>> (which kinda equals to limited distribution, e.g. non-public). Same 
>>>> might apply to downstream vendors distributing appliances (like VMWare 
>>>> used to distribute .vmx files for some operating systems/distributions?)
>>>>
>>> This part I'm not so sure of.  "Limited distribution" in an age of
>>> convenient bit-moving doesn't mean a whole lot.  Rather, we should be
>>> working on automation for rebranding that makes the whole operation easy
>>> for anyone that wants to do it -- so the requirement is less onerous.
>>>
>> Euh, right, "Limited distribution" is most definitely not the right 
>> terminology, but I wouldn't want to force people (or ISVs for that 
>> matter) that hand out Fedora media containing a demo or presentation, to 
>> rebrand to the fullest because they add non-fedora content. Replacing 
>> fedora-logos is reasonable, anything beyond makes them go to other 
>> distributions to use or derive from.
> 
> I think this *may* be fairly easy to solve in the Live image on USB
> case.  The part of the file system outside the Live image is completely
> outside of what we call Fedora.  Including presentation or demo material
> there doesn't affect the "Fedora-ness" of the Live image.  I would think
> that any claim it did would be a little strange, because that would
> affect anyone who uses a Live USB and decides to store some data in that
> external space.  This is just a preliminary thought.


We give them the powser to build any packages into the live-usb and 
appliances. So I would sugest that any trademark solution address the 
idea that friends of ferdora will be build these and we want them to say 
"I built this on Fedora" but not "This is fedora"

-- bk