When to rebrand fedora?

Paul W. Frields stickster at gmail.com
Fri Aug 1 12:16:07 UTC 2008


On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 07:01 -0400, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> 
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 16:36 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
> >> Paul W. Frields wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 09:48 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
> >>>> Since we're on the topic, I've also suggested on the "new trademark 
> >>>> policy" wiki page[1], that rebranding should not be required in case you 
> >>>> hand out a presentation or demo in case of an ISV, if you have built it 
> >>>> upon Fedora and are simply handing it out to attendees of your session 
> >>>> (which kinda equals to limited distribution, e.g. non-public). Same 
> >>>> might apply to downstream vendors distributing appliances (like VMWare 
> >>>> used to distribute .vmx files for some operating systems/distributions?)
> >>>>
> >>> This part I'm not so sure of.  "Limited distribution" in an age of
> >>> convenient bit-moving doesn't mean a whole lot.  Rather, we should be
> >>> working on automation for rebranding that makes the whole operation easy
> >>> for anyone that wants to do it -- so the requirement is less onerous.
> >>>
> >> Euh, right, "Limited distribution" is most definitely not the right 
> >> terminology, but I wouldn't want to force people (or ISVs for that 
> >> matter) that hand out Fedora media containing a demo or presentation, to 
> >> rebrand to the fullest because they add non-fedora content. Replacing 
> >> fedora-logos is reasonable, anything beyond makes them go to other 
> >> distributions to use or derive from.
> > 
> > I think this *may* be fairly easy to solve in the Live image on USB
> > case.  The part of the file system outside the Live image is completely
> > outside of what we call Fedora.  Including presentation or demo material
> > there doesn't affect the "Fedora-ness" of the Live image.  I would think
> > that any claim it did would be a little strange, because that would
> > affect anyone who uses a Live USB and decides to store some data in that
> > external space.  This is just a preliminary thought.
> 
> 
> We give them the powser to build any packages into the live-usb and 
> appliances. So I would sugest that any trademark solution address the 
> idea that friends of ferdora will be build these and we want them to say 
> "I built this on Fedora" but not "This is fedora"

That's exactly what the "Fedora Upstream"-type marking and the new
guidelines are intended to do.

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