Network Management - probably pebcak needs sorting

[Martin Kho]

> 2010/3/8 Anne Wilson <cannewilson at googlemail.com>:
> > On Monday 08 March 2010 13:14:19 Martin Kho wrote:
> >> > On Monday 08 March 2010 11:21:21 Martin Kho wrote:
> >> > > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Petrus de Calguarium
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > <kwhiskerz at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > If I am not mistaken,, you have either
> >> > > > > knetworkmanager or NetworkManager-gnome
> >> > > > > installed, not both.
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > You can have both installed without a problem. If you have both
> >> > > > you get a warning (get asked?) from knetworkmanager that another
> >> > > > applet is running and if you want to use it or not in the future.
> >> > > > So, one is always working.
> >> > > 
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > > 
> >> > > Aren't both knetworkmanager and NetworkManager-gnome more or less
> >> > > front-ends to NetworkManager? So if the network doesn't work, it has
> >> > > to be NetworkManager that didn't detect the network-card, or did
> >> > > set up the interface wrongly. Are there any error messages in
> >> > > /var/log/messages?
> >> > 
> >> > Messages appeared to be saying that the cabled connection was OK, but
> >> > the wireless connection was disabled by 'killswitch'.  Since the
> >> > hardware switch is in a position where it can get knocked off, I
> >> > played around with it until Messages accepted that it is on.
> >> >  However, when I got the authentication dialog there is no entry
> >> > possibility for WPA!  This is definitely a regression.  I've had WPA
> >> > with knetworkmanager before, I'm sure.
> >> > 
> >> > Oddly enough, ifconfig says it has an ipv6 address, but no ipv4
> >> > address. Meanwhile, the icon on the systray still tells me that the
> >> > network is disabled.
> >> 
> >> Hi Anne,
> >> 
> >> Just a silly question. You don't - still - have the kde-plasma version
> >> of knetworkmanager installed?
> > 
> > Seems that I do.  I installed it and never got around to sorting it out.
> >  I think that maybe the tray icon I'm complaining about is from that.
> >  OK - so removed the plasma object - the icon remains.  I'll try a
> > reboot in a moment to see whether the network activates properly.
> >  Funny, though, in the past I've always been able to see the cabled
> > connection even if the wireless one wasn't available.
> 
> The networkmanagemnt plasmoid does right now nothing except popup a
> message that it's deprecated in favor of the systray applet. Doesn't
> matter if it's installed or not. I guess the worst thing that could
> happen is that it makes plasma-desktop crash. Well, that would
> actually be bad ;)

Hi,

I'm not sure if you're right here if I read Will Stephenson's post under point 
b), see [1]

Martin Kho

[1] http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-networkmanager/2009-November/000480.html



> 
> > In desperation I installed every tool I could see to help troubleshoot
> > this. wlassistant tells me "Failed to connect to wpa_supplicant -
> > wpa_ctrl_open: No such file or directory  CONNECTION FAILED".  If things
> > don't work after the reboot I'll see whether it's still getting that
> > message.
> 
> Do try the NetoworkManager-gnome (nm-applet). I had a different
> problem, not solvable with knetworkmanager, but with nm-applet.