Network Management - probably pebcak needs sorting

[Thomas Janssen]

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Martin Kho <lists.kho at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2010/3/8 Anne Wilson <cannewilson at googlemail.com>:
>> > On Monday 08 March 2010 13:14:19 Martin Kho wrote:
>> >> > On Monday 08 March 2010 11:21:21 Martin Kho wrote:
>> >> > > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Petrus de Calguarium
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > <kwhiskerz at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > > > If I am not mistaken,, you have either
>> >> > > > > knetworkmanager or NetworkManager-gnome
>> >> > > > > installed, not both.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > You can have both installed without a problem. If you have both
>> >> > > > you get a warning (get asked?) from knetworkmanager that another
>> >> > > > applet is running and if you want to use it or not in the future.
>> >> > > > So, one is always working.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Hi,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Aren't both knetworkmanager and NetworkManager-gnome more or less
>> >> > > front-ends to NetworkManager? So if the network doesn't work, it has
>> >> > > to be NetworkManager that didn't detect the network-card, or did
>> >> > > set up the interface wrongly. Are there any error messages in
>> >> > > /var/log/messages?
>> >> >
>> >> > Messages appeared to be saying that the cabled connection was OK, but
>> >> > the wireless connection was disabled by 'killswitch'.  Since the
>> >> > hardware switch is in a position where it can get knocked off, I
>> >> > played around with it until Messages accepted that it is on.
>> >> >  However, when I got the authentication dialog there is no entry
>> >> > possibility for WPA!  This is definitely a regression.  I've had WPA
>> >> > with knetworkmanager before, I'm sure.
>> >> >
>> >> > Oddly enough, ifconfig says it has an ipv6 address, but no ipv4
>> >> > address. Meanwhile, the icon on the systray still tells me that the
>> >> > network is disabled.
>> >>
>> >> Hi Anne,
>> >>
>> >> Just a silly question. You don't - still - have the kde-plasma version
>> >> of knetworkmanager installed?
>> >
>> > Seems that I do.  I installed it and never got around to sorting it out.
>> >  I think that maybe the tray icon I'm complaining about is from that.
>> >  OK - so removed the plasma object - the icon remains.  I'll try a
>> > reboot in a moment to see whether the network activates properly.
>> >  Funny, though, in the past I've always been able to see the cabled
>> > connection even if the wireless one wasn't available.
>>
>> The networkmanagemnt plasmoid does right now nothing except popup a
>> message that it's deprecated in favor of the systray applet. Doesn't
>> matter if it's installed or not. I guess the worst thing that could
>> happen is that it makes plasma-desktop crash. Well, that would
>> actually be bad ;)
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm not sure if you're right here if I read Will Stephenson's post under point
> b), see [1]
Hi,

well, i have no idea about Kubuntu ;) But i speak out of experience. I
had the plasmoid. I have both frontends installed, the gnome and the
kde one (using the gnome one) and cnetworkmanager. Yes, you can run
only one at the same time. But the plasmoid i had did nothing except
that popup (of course after it got deprecated for now). Could of
course be that my brain serves bad here and i had to de-install it.
Will try it later with some time again.

-- 
LG Thomas

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