fedoraLife Concept (condensed version) online now
lucas at cefetce.br
Sat Jun 14 18:06:48 UTC 2008
Good point rafael, I think we can start asking people who uses PCs not for
living what they think its usefull to a OS and start compiling a database
with this information :) who's with me ? :D
2008/6/13 rafael liu <rafaelliu at gmail.com>:
> tFrom what I get Markus is suggesting a "bundled" Fedora which would have
> all common and cool apps, so users don't have to search/install them.
> I think a much reasonable approach would be to give users profiles, but
> much more focused than the package selector we have upon installation. I see
> this idea in Ubuntu with its flavors (Studio, Home Server, etc) and Debian
> with that primitive selector (Server, Notebook, etc).
> There could be profiles such as Media Workstation, Developer Workstation,
> Server, Home User, etc. Those would just select appropriate packages in the
> already existent package selector in Anaconda.
> 2008/6/13 Lucas Saboya <lucas at cefetce.br>:
>> ok, so lets go modelling the stuff?
>> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro>
>>> Lucas Saboya wrote:
>>>> Actually, the Fedora Unity project releases a DVD and CD set of
>>>> EVERY SINGLE PACKAGE in Fedora in one set of install media. They
>>>> call it the "Everything Spin." The problem with this is... it is 4
>>>> DVDs or 23 CDs.
>>>> Ok, but dont you thing that 4 DVDs ou 23 CDs its a little HUGE amount of
>>>> data, that sometimes wont be NEVER used by a normal user, that only wants to
>>>> edit his/her videos or engage into a meeting ?
>>> That is the superset of *all* our packages. With the same tools used to
>>> produce it, anyone can create his own subset ("spin") with whatever he think
>>> is useful.
>>> If he manage to prove the spin is useful for a large category of users,
>>> then it can be hosted on Fedora infrastructure (torrent). It is is even more
>>> useful than that, then it may get even hosted on the mirrors.
>>> The trick is to produce a spin which is useful.
>>> So is the point to make a more usable version of Fedora? Or is the
>>>> point to ship everything in the initial install?
>>>> What is the goal you are looking to achieve? It seems really unclear
>>>> to me.
>>>> The point is tho make a usable version of fedora, shipping not
>>>> everything but just the things we KNOW that will help the common users that
>>>> uses a PC just to do a PART of their work not US who can easily compile our
>>>> own version of fedora and put everything we want on it. is that so hard to
>>>> do, thing like common users ?:)
>>> It is hard because there are a lot of definition of what "common users"
>>> need. For example, it can be argued that common users do not need
>>> video/audio editors (see the "fedoraLife" subject of this thread) and that
>>> such applications are needed by a niche ("creative").
>>> Ready to roll up your sleeves?
>>>> Thats what I'm doing right now :)
>>>> So when are you going to show us some code?
>>>> let's go codding, so ! But remember that this is not the fedora
>>>> developer list, its the MARKETING one :)
>>>> this means, the codding doesn't happen here, the idea of the email is to
>>>> compile a concept of the programas we can put with fedora to make a clean
>>>> and functional instalation.
>>> The first step is to produce something like this:
>>> And then, turn the list in a kickstart file. After that, producing the
>>> spin is only a matter of clicks.
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