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[rafael liu]

+1 Lucas

I don't know whether it would be useful but there could be something like
smolt to packages installed. I say it may not be useful because not always
people configure the system the way they like the first time, or maybe they
don't know what they like, and maybe a lot of trash could get counted in the
statistics.

This work could start from the community as we already have very distinct
profiles and people would be more careful/thoughtful towards our effort.

2008/6/14 Lucas Saboya <lucas at cefetce.br>:

> Good point rafael, I think we can start asking people who uses PCs not for
> living what they think its usefull to a OS and start compiling a database
> with this information :) who's with me ? :D
>
> 2008/6/13 rafael liu <rafaelliu at gmail.com>:
>
> tFrom what I get Markus is suggesting a "bundled" Fedora which would have
>> all common and cool apps, so users don't have to search/install them.
>>
>> I think a much reasonable approach would be to give users profiles, but
>> much more focused than the package selector we have upon installation. I see
>> this idea in Ubuntu with its flavors (Studio, Home Server, etc) and Debian
>> with that primitive selector (Server, Notebook, etc).
>>
>> There could be profiles such as Media Workstation, Developer Workstation,
>> Server, Home User, etc. Those would just select appropriate packages in the
>> already existent package selector in Anaconda.
>>
>> 2008/6/13 Lucas Saboya <lucas at cefetce.br>:
>>
>>> ok, so lets go modelling the stuff?
>>>
>>>  On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Lucas Saboya wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>    Actually, the Fedora Unity project releases a DVD and CD set of
>>>>>    EVERY SINGLE PACKAGE in Fedora in one set of install media. They
>>>>>    call it the "Everything Spin." The problem with this is... it is 4
>>>>>    DVDs or 23 CDs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, but dont you thing that 4 DVDs ou 23 CDs its a little HUGE amount
>>>>> of data, that sometimes wont be NEVER used by a normal user, that only wants
>>>>> to edit his/her videos or engage into a meeting ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is the superset of *all* our packages. With the same tools used to
>>>> produce it, anyone can create his own subset ("spin") with whatever he think
>>>> is useful.
>>>> If he manage to prove the spin is useful for a large category of users,
>>>> then it can be hosted on Fedora infrastructure (torrent). It is is even more
>>>> useful than that, then it may get even hosted on the mirrors.
>>>> The trick is to produce a spin which is useful.
>>>>
>>>>     So is the point to make a more usable version of Fedora? Or is the
>>>>>    point to ship everything in the initial install?
>>>>>    What is the goal you are looking to achieve? It seems really unclear
>>>>>    to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> The point is tho make a usable version of fedora, shipping not
>>>>> everything but just the things we KNOW that will help the common users that
>>>>> uses a PC just to do a PART of their work not US who can easily compile our
>>>>> own version of fedora and put everything we want on it. is that so hard to
>>>>> do, thing like common users ?:)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is hard because there are a lot of definition of what "common users"
>>>> need. For example, it can be argued that common users do not need
>>>> video/audio editors (see the "fedoraLife" subject of this thread) and that
>>>> such applications are needed by a niche ("creative").
>>>>
>>>>     Ready to roll up your sleeves?
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thats what I'm doing right now :)
>>>>>
>>>>>    So when are you going to show us some code?
>>>>>
>>>>> let's go codding, so ! But remember that this is not the fedora
>>>>> developer list, its the MARKETING one :)
>>>>> this means, the codding doesn't happen here, the idea of the email is
>>>>> to compile a concept of the programas we can put with fedora to make a clean
>>>>> and functional instalation.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The first step is to produce something like this:
>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio/PackageManifest
>>>>
>>>> And then, turn the list in a kickstart file. After that, producing the
>>>> spin is only a matter of clicks.
>>>>
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