"Red Hat Releases Fedora 18 Beta"

"J├│hann B. Gu├░mundsson" johannbg at gmail.com
Wed Nov 28 03:00:39 UTC 2012

On 11/28/2012 02:03 AM, inode0 wrote:
> One thing I noticed in this announcement as well as something similar
> in a fairly recent Red Hat blog post is some emphasis on Fedora's role
> as a place where new technology is developed and tested for possible
> inclusion in Red Hat's commercial products. While that is true and it
> is a motivation for many Fedora contributors it isn't the universal
> view of Fedora even within Fedora. Fedora is different things to
> different people and unfortunately one of the persistent, although
> perhaps waning, issues we deal with promoting Fedora is people put off
> by the impression that is really all Fedora is.

Yes exactly I for one am one of those that have been trying to shave of 
that "development version of RHEL or development desktop version for Red 
Hat" through out the years because I know first hand that users have 
chosen to stay away from using Fedora because of the "development label" 
including upstream that have chosen to ship their own packages in their 
own internal repo simply because they thought nobody would be using 
their application. ( which in this particular case is server related ) 
which is why my project vision is that we eventually evolve into 
releasing and maintaining one LTS release  and one rolling release which 
users that want bleeding edge would upgrade every 6 or 8 months or so ( 
which kinda is not implementable until we have something like btrfs ).

>   So I'd like to see
> some care around dealing with this. I don't want to discourage Red Hat
> from saying*this*  is why Fedora is important to us entirely. I think
> that message is important too. But maybe we can boilerplate something
> that also emphasizes other reasons people love and contribute to
> Fedora so it is*one of many*  reasons Fedora is important.

Yes you nailed it *one of many* which is why we cant have a single label 
that applies to the distribution in whole or single de to push on the 
front, or a single server solution etc.

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