Discussion of Fedora Server use-cases

[Stephen Gallagher]

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On 10/28/2013 10:26 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> 
> On 10/28/2013 02:18 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
>> Sorry I am not sure what you mean here. If you mean the Server
>> image will never have a graphical UI I don't think we are all on
>> the same boat.
> 
> For the first we dont have any graphical tools to manage our
> application stack secondly we should not be delivering products
> that allow for larger attack surface on servers then need be.
> 
>> 
>> Not that I want to install such UI by default, but not all people
>> are comfortable managing headless servers, so the option almost
>> certainly needs to be there.
> 


I agree that there will be situations where an administrator will want
to install a GUI on a server (even if it's just because they have one
machine in a rack that they use to fix things up when things go
sideways).

Here is my expectation:

We expect headless operation to be the norm, and if graphical
interaction is needed, it will usually be done remotely via another
system, possibly Fedora Workstation. However, we should also keep in
mind the high likelihood that people are going to want to administer
these systems from Windows, Macintosh or possibly tablet devices. With
this in mind, I'd like to suggest that we focus our efforts around
web-based applications and scriptable shell commands. (So things like
Katello/Foreman, OpenLMI, FreeIPA WebUI and similar). These should all
be consumable from any graphical client.

That all being said, I think we really want to coordinate with the
Environments/Stacks and Workstation group to hopefully enable the
deployment of a desktop environment as part of those stacks. That way,
if someone REALLY wants a local GUI for their servers, they need only
install the "GNOME Desktop" or "KDE Desktop" bundle. To the best of
our ability, this bundle should be self-contained and not require
modification of the system atop which it is being installed.
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