Proposal: Implementation of Server Roles

[Stef Walter]

On 27.06.2014 17:30, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> 2014-06-27 17:25 GMT+02:00 Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh at redhat.com
> <mailto:sgallagh at redhat.com>>:
> 
>     On 06/26/2014 02:59 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
>     > Hello, 2014-06-19 16:43 GMT+02:00 Stephen Gallagher
>     > <sgallagh at redhat.com <mailto:sgallagh at redhat.com>
>     <mailto:sgallagh at redhat.com <mailto:sgallagh at redhat.com>>>:
>     >
>     > Please see the design page I've written at
>     > https://fedorahosted.org/rolekit/wiki/Design/RolePackaging and
>     > comment on it here.
>     >
>     > The targets are named fedora-*, but the directory is
>     > /etc/server-role (no fedora); should this be consistent?
> 
>  
> 
>     My intention there was to make the design non-fedora-specific, but
>     make it clear that the roles we're installing are clearly for Fedora
>     and probably won't work on other platforms without modification.
> 
> 
> Makes sense.
> 
>     I've also been toying with the idea that we should require roles to
>     include a journald messageid specific to the role, to make it easier
>     to track the logs all the way through. This won't be an F21 target, as
>     I need to talk to the journald devs about whether there's any way to
>     get journald to add a messageid automatically to messages generated by
>     any descendent of a unit (or just track them all the way through). I
>     suspect this isn't available today.
> 
> 
> We don’t strictly need that: the role API gives anyone the set of
> relevant units, and we can ask for all journal messages associated with
> an unit (which, true, wouldn’t be exactly instantaneous).  (Using the
> same messageid for many different kinds of messages just to record an
> association seems like kind of an abuse of the concept :) )

Yes, just to confirm, that's what we would do in Cockpit.

The only hurdle here is that roles like IPA don't (yet) allow us to
detect which units belong to their role. I believe Simo said it was
possible to remedy that somehow?

Stef