Docker installed by default due to cockpit dependency chain

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Thursday, March 12, 2015 07:36:18 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > On Mar 12, 2015, at 6:59 PM, Dennis Gilmore <dennis at ausil.us> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> On Friday, March 06, 2015 07:32:21 AM Stef Walter wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On 05.03.2015 15:13, Václav Pavlín wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> 
> >>> I am not sure if that was intentional or not but to be sure, I'd like
> >>> to
> >>> bring up this dependency "issue":
> >>> 
> >>> We've tried to install minimal Fedora with KS where in %packages was
> >>> just @core. This installed
> >>> 
> >>> fedora-release-server -> cockpit -> cockpit-docker -> docker(-io)
> >>> 
> >>> I understand why Cockpit is installed by default but I don't think
> >>> docker should be part of such minimal install..
> >>> 
> >>> My proposal would be to change the dependency so that
> >>> fedora-release-server
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>    Requires: cockpit
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> docker-io
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>    Requires: cockpit-docker
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> This would mean non-existent Containers page in Cockpit in minimal
> >>> install which would magically appear when the user installs docker.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> It is indeed up to the Fedora Server WG which features (and packages)
> >> Fedora Server has installed by default.
> >> 
> >> In Cockpit we will try and respect that, and indeed it is incorrect for
> >> Cockpit to be dragging in large features via dependencies.
> >> 
> >> A few notes:
> >> 
> >> * It seems like docker is (becoming?) a staple feature of a modern
> >> 
> >>   server, much like sendmail would have been a decade ago.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> * Based on user feedback, the Containers page is the most used feature
> >> 
> >>   of Cockpit.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> * docker is only available on x86_64 ... ditto for cockpit-docker
> > 
> > Not true, docker is available and works on arm. there is also no reason
> > why 
 i686 can not be supported also.
> > 
> 
> 
> Last I heard, docker was not supported on i686 upstream and there were known
> issues with it. Has that changed?
 
docker upstream doesn't support arm either, it is not stopping us from doing 
so.  Upstream lives in an unrealistic world of only x86_64 it is just one of 
the many problems with  docker.  Does not mean we have to. our view is a bit 
more realistic.

Dennis
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