FC5T2 ready for even a test release?

[Jim Cornette]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
> 
>> I agree with you Dan.  The idea of a custom
>> install[Install Everything] should not be removed.  It
>> is time consuming to click on too many buttons.  Keep
>> the layout, it is excellent but please bring back the
>> custom install option.  I understand the need to make
>> specialized options, i.e, for language customizations,
>> selecting packages, etc.  The changes in Anaconda are
>> nice, but why get rid of a good thing "The everything
>> install".   
>>
> ... because its not so good. 
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-January/msg01138.html. 
> Tell me on what occasions would a end user need it?
> 

The major reason that I used the everything install in the recent past 
was the lack of packages that I liked being marked down the list and not 
selectable without using the everything installation choice.

Another reason for the rational resurrection of the everything install 
is because of groups of packages that are modularized and which bring up 
a lot of needless clicking on selections.

The major item that I disliked with doing an everything install was the 
inability to deselect portions of packages which I would not use. These 
packages are mainly related to different languages. I would prefer to 
have everything selectable and then allow a trimdown fo those that want 
an almost everything install.

For my computer usage, I use windows file servers, ftp, http, databases, 
a lot of multimedia applications, several desktops, development 
packages, legacy libraries and choose about everything anyway. Having 
this option is an option which should be available for those that find 
it useful.

On a clean install of FC5T2 that I went through today, I found the 
package groupings and package additions quite nice and easy to manage. I 
did however have to go through all of the groups and select the packages 
that were not selected by the default group selection fields.

Worthless package gnome-screensaver selected. Useful packages like gftp, 
mc and others I had to select. Packages that I use such as mozilla-mail 
were not even listed in the selection screens.

Also, why download 3+ gb of content and receive the suggestion that you 
use yum to get the rest of your desired packages from the mirrors?

I appreciate programs like pirut which aid in post-install package 
retrieval. I would however like to get the packages at installation time 
from the 3+ gig disc that I downloaded first. I then would upgrade the 
changes after the installation was loaded as I desire.

With a lot of useful programs being shifted over to Fedora Extras and 
maintained by developers from the community who take on the task of 
maintaining programs in the Extras repository, a disc or seperate 
installer to follow the reduced core package count seems to me to be of 
much value.

The option for an everything install is not unrealistic or not totally 
off the wall.
For all of the extra packages installed during an everything install, 
what percentage of the everything packages really activate extra services?

Jim


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