2010-03-01 @ 16:00 UTC (11am EST) - Fedora QA Meeting Recap
James Laska
jlaska at redhat.com
Mon Mar 1 19:06:55 UTC 2010
As always, IRC transcript and minutes available at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20100301
== Attendees ==
People present (lines said)
* jlaska (184)
* kparal (45)
* wwoods (42)
* maxamillion (31)
* Viking-Ice (19)
* jskladan (18)
* tk009 (17)
* zodbot (13)
* skvidal (7)
* jsmith (1)
Regrets:
* User:Adamwill
* User:liam
* User:rhe
== Agenda ==
* Proposed meeting agenda -
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-March/088873.html
* meetbot summary -
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-03-01/fedora-qa.2010-03-01-16.00.html
== Previous meeting follow-up ==
1. maxamillion to draft up some proposed policy docs for qa FAS
group membership
* Initiated discussion on the mailing list (see
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-February/088824.html)
* Draft page available on the wiki (see
QA/JoinCriticalPathWranglers:Draft)
* Please continue sending feedback to the mailing list
2. jlaska / maxamillion to co-ordinate with sectool test day hosts
tmraz, mbarabas and pvrabec who may be able to contribute
* No traction this past week. Jlaska will reach out
post-meeting to sectool test day
== Fedora 13 Alpha test status ==
* Alpha RC#4 is available for testing. Instructions for
downloading and providing feedback available at:
* Test_Results:Fedora_13_Alpha_RC4_Install
* Test_Results:Fedora_13_Alpha_RC4_Desktop
* Current list of unresolved bugs blocking the
Fedora_13_Alpha_Release_Criteria ...
* RHBZ #567346 - MODIFIED - gpk-update-viewer does not
display changelogs nor updates packages
* RHBZ #569377 - NEW - CDROM install unable to eject disc
- storage: error ejecting cdrom sr0: (5, 'Input/output
error')
* kparal asked to review new bugs for Alpha criteria:
* RHBZ #569352 - Broken dependencies for
1:openoffice.org-langpack-en-3.2.0-12.7.fc13.x86_64
* Reassigned to
image:Echo-package-16px.pngyum-langpack and
requesting feedback from Jens Petersen
* RHBZ #569355 - Broken dependencies for
2:gimp-2.6.8-4.fc13.x86_64
* Appears to be resolved CLOSED NEXTRELEASE
== development/13 bug procedures ==
* Discussed at the BugZappers meeting last week. Just want to
remind folks about the process here. When closing Fedora 13
bugs, use resolution: CLOSED, status: ERRATA.
* tk009 reminded the group that additional action items were
needed. Join #fedora-meeting for the next BugZapper meeting to
discuss further.
== AutoQA Updates ==
* wwoods - development/patch policy proposal -
https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2010-February/000224.html
=== Depcheck ===
* wwoods informed the group that there is a working yum-based
depcheck script available in git (see
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=autoqa.git;a=blob;f=tests/depcheck/depcheck).
* wwoods was working towards adding built-in tests for the script,
but realizes that the same built-in tests used to validate yum
behavior apply to depcheck, so there isn't need to re-invent the
wheel.
* Next steps involve thinking about how the updates test process
workflow will look. Packages will need to land in some staging
tag for depcheck to work it's magic, then tag the packages for
the desired repo (updates or updates-testing).
* Maxamillion asked whether there could there be something like
"chain-test" that is similar to "chain-build" in koji?
=== Resultsdb ===
* kparal informed the group that another design discussion was
held last week (see recap).
* Kparal has begun working on use cases for resultsdb (see
AutoQA_resultsdb_use_cases), and is discovering that the use
cases are often about autoqa itself, not resultsdb.
* jskladan also started drafting a db scheme (png or dia file).
=== Beakerlib ===
* jskladan finished the initscript checking test last week. No new
updates to share
* Had a discussion with benl who pointed out potential licensing
issues with re-using tests. Might have to rework the licensing
of the tests.
=== Install Automation ===
* lili - Updated dvd automated install tests available (uses
dogtail). Feedback welcome, see
https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/107
* Updates include:
1. support DVD boot, with virt-install --cdrom to create VM
2. support local kickstart and remote kickstart
file(http,ftp,etc...)
3. user environment checking to run this script
4. some requisite software package check before running
5. use dogtail to pass args to kernel
6. create an additional hard disk to upload and store
kickstart file
=== Packaging ===
* jlaska - No updates to packaging. Investigating hosting a FAD to
help focus packaging efforts without distraction.
== Open discussion - <Your topic here> ==
=== https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569352 ===
* Kparal provided updated test results on RHBZ #569352 and noted
it is specific to image:Echo-package-16px.pngyum-langpack.
* Kparal and Jlaska discussed whether this was an Alpha blocker
and decided to note it in CommonBugs and wait for Jens feedback
to better assess the impact to Alpha testers.
== Upcoming QA events ==
* 2010-01-21 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #1
* 2010-01-28 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #2
* 2010-02-04 - Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan #3
* 2010-02-04 - NFSv4 Test Day
* 2010-02-05 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (F13Alpha) #1 (recap)
* 2010-02-11 - Test Alpha 'Test Compose' (boot media testing)
* 2010-02-12 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (F13Alpha) #2 (recap)
* 2010-02-12 - Alpha Test Candidate verification (announcement)
* 2010-02-18 - Alpha Release Candidate verification
* 2010-02-18 - Color Management test day
* 2010-02-19 - Alpha Blocker Meeting (F13Alpha) #3 (recap)
* 2010-02-24 - Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting (20:00 EST)
* 2010-02-25 - Yum Langpack plugin test day
* WE ARE HERE
* 2010-03-10 - Pre-Beta Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan
* 2010-03-12 - Beta Blocker Meeting (F13Beta) #1
* 2010-03-18 - Test Beta 'Test Compose'
* 2010-03-19 - Beta Blocker Meeting (F13Beta) #2
== Action items ==
1. maxamillion seeking input from the
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mentors group for guidance on
mentor responsibilities
2. continued testing of bug#567346 to further isolate the failure
conditions
3. jlaska - update AutoQA_PatchProcess to include fedorapeople.org
git repo
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