[Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

James Laska jlaska at redhat.com
Wed Feb 16 16:30:31 UTC 2011

On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 15:17 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 08:07:18 -0500, James wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 12:35 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > > On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:34:43 -0500, Andre wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 is now available [1].  Please refer to the following
> > > > pages for download links and testing instructions.
> > > > 
> > > > Installation:
> > > > 
> > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test
> > > 
> > > The x86_64 DVD.iso still segfaults for "askmethod" installation from
> > > harddisk.
> > > 
> > > Just as with the image for the GNOME test day, I'm unable to install
> > > this. Booting the vmlinuz/initrd.img from the isolinux enters text mode
> > > and wants to start installation from network. Using askmethod and pointing
> > > it at /dev/sda6 path /15/64 crashes.
> > 
> > Is there a bug filed for this segfault?
> No. I won't file a bug for something that is either not supported in the
> test images or known to be broken. 

If you add "askmethod" and it segfaults/crashes ... that's a bug.  I'd
like to see this issue fixed.  I don't believe "askmethod" is going
away, but I'm still trying to understand how askmethod, repo= and
stage2= will change now that we no longer have a stage2 install.img

In the meantime, can you provide some more information on the
segfault/crash?  Even better, please file a bug with the crash
information.  This is one that needs to be resolved.

> When I brought this up for the GNOME
> test day images, it was said that the images were never meant to be used
> as install images and that most testers would use them for creating live
> media.

That's news to me, live images are, and will be, a supported means of
installing Fedora.  In fact, F15Alpha won't be released until they
work ... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=672265 (barring an
unlikely decision from FESCO to release without them).

> The linked Wiki pages are like a maze where I go in circles trying to
> find info about how the DVD ISO image may be used.

That's likely because this is still before the Alpha.  Adjusting the
documentation to match reality is something we'll need to get lined up
for the installation guide.  Which pages were confusing?

> > Also, it's possible you don't need to boot with askmethod.  Can you
> > explain in some detail your use case that needs 'askmethod'?
> Without askmethod I'm not asked whether to perform an install from harddisk.

Personally, I'm still understanding how the install.img removal will
impact our testing.  I believe Hurry may have reached out on this topic
as well, to determine how this impacts the 'installation source' tests

One item to note, is that loader is *not* responsible for determining
where the install.img is ... there is no install.img ... only packages.
Directing the installer to different package repos, happens later in the
install during repo setup.  That said, some of the supported package
repositories may require some preparation, or don't have a corresponding
graphical setup in the installer.  For those scenarios, the existing
'repo=' and 'askmethod' boot arguments [2] may be used.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Installation_Source
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda_Boot_Options

> Instead, the installer asks me to select the network card which to use.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=677773 ?

> With the GNOME test day image, it actually proceeded to downloading all
> packages from the network.

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