will F18 allow simultaneous installation of more than one desktop?

[Adam Williamson]

On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 14:50 -0500, David Lehman wrote:

> > > > Please show researched statistics to support your claim and implication
> > > > that this is a minority group. I question and doubt you actually have
> > > > statistics on any of these groups.
> > > 
> > > Too busy trying to actually do work, but thanks for offering to help.
> > 
> > Nice try. I didn't offer to help on this one. You alleged something as a
> > point without anything to back it up. I just asked you to back up what
> > you're saying. If you can't do that, it's not my problem. It just means
> > I'm winning on this part of the argument.
> 
> I was being sarcastic about you offering to help.

Sorry, Chris wins this one. You made an unsupported assertion; he called
you out on it and asked for support; you failed to support your argument
and instead decided to fall back on the old standby of saying 'you
didn't offer to help with the code'. I don't see how this works as a
response to the argument; are you seriously suggesting that no-one can
point out an unsupported assertion except someone who is actively
writing code alongside you?

> > Let's cut to the chase here: Your actual motivation for all of this is
> > that you want to limit the amount of work that you do. You're just
> > disguising it in all sorts of excuses. Why not just say that you don't
> 
> It's amusing that you assume I am shunning a piece of work, presumably
> in order to gain free time, as though I have no other work to keep me
> busy for the foreseeable future.

That also looks like a shabby argument to me, David. You're the one
doing the assuming, not Chris. You cut his paragraph right before he
went on to posit two possible alternative reasons why you might be
limiting the amount of work: "you don't want to do it" *or* "you don't
have the cycles to do it". The fact that he raised both possibilities
clearly indicates he was not assuming either of them.

I know it gets frustrating when people criticize your design decisions,
but can we please stick to reasoned discussion of the design?

> > want to do it? Or, alternately, say that you don't have the cycles to do
> > it and, if people really want this done, you're going to need more
> > help/time/money, or similar. It's easier and it's a lot more honest. The
> > rest of us can then decide how we should adjust our priorities, ranging
> > from helping to find more resources willing to work on it, helping to
> > work on it ourselves, or even getting up and leaving.
> >
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