Recommended system requirements for f20 not sufficient?

[Dan Mossor]

On 12/18/2013 01:21 PM, Akshay Vyas wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:43 AM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203 at freenet.de> wrote:
>> On 12/18/2013 08:03 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 15:03 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> i just booted the live iso in a VM with 1G of memory and after I start
>>>> "Software" the VM locks up completely after a few seconds. Having "top"
>>>> open while starting "Software" shows very little free/cached RAM left
>>>> over before the system dies so I upped the RAM of the VM to 2G and with
>>>> that the problem disappears.
>>>>
>>>> It looks like the 1G of RAM recommended on http://fedoraproject.org/
>>>> really aren't sufficient to run the basic stuff and this should be
>>>> updated to probably 1.5-2G RAM or at least 1G RAM + some swap.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I did some testing during F20 cycle which seems to indicate F20
>>> Shell takes up a lot more memory than F19 when using llvmpipe. We're not
>>> sure exactly what's going on yet, I need to find time to circle back and
>>> investigate, but I suspect '1GB in a VM' and '1GB on metal' will be
>>> somewhat different experiences. 1GB is getting a bit thin for the
>>> default desktop with the current typical requirements of GNOME, FF and
>>> LO, though, yeah.
>>
>>
>> FWIW: F20 runs without many problems on 512k RAM:
>>
>> # cat /proc/meminfo
>> MemTotal:         508392 kB
>> MemFree:          127952 kB
>>
>> # cat /etc/fedora-release
>> Fedora release 20 (Heisenbug)
>>
>> However, this is a system on which Fedora was installed long time ago
>> gradually upgraded to f20.
>>
>> Ralf
>>
> I tested all Desktop environments on my old PC with 1G (DDR1) and
> found out that all DE's are working fine
> except GNOME(Default DE) and KDE which gave me some issues(slows down
> or freezes) when running Firefox,Chrome,GIMP etc
>
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Keep in mind that he's specifically addressing the LIVE iso - since it 
has to load it's entire environment into a RAMDisk, it only makes sense 
that we should be advising 2GB+ for live environments. When there is 
storage media besides RAM available, you can run F20 on as little as the 
512MB that Ralf is using.

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Dan Mossor
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