Fedora 18 issues with translations and keymaps

Jaroslav Reznik jreznik at redhat.com
Thu Jan 3 15:43:30 UTC 2013

----- Original Message -----
> On 01/03/2013 03:26 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> > That's more - do not ship blindly, try to figure out as much as
> > possible
> > but within the time frame we have.
> You may not have been long enough sitting in the release chair to
> realize that the time frame that was used to initially determined the
> first release cycle of the Fedora has since long been out grown.
> Heck I cant even remember any release that has been manage to be
> shipped
> on time.
> Can you provide me with proper argument why it is so urgent to
> release
> now? Why the rush? What benefit it's supposed to bring to our end
> user
> instead of delivering them better complete working product?

The only argument - we look like fools. I admit this is my first
release, it's a fun one :) but - for F18, we were planning six
months release cycle (+some time for blocking issues, it's 
non sense to release with blockers). But F18 was very different -
but changing the release cycle/planning should happen before.

Also we are still able to deliver very good product, it's always
about compromise - even if we would just scratch all "time based
release cycle" - you can aim on perfection, but we're not Hurd :)
It's always about scope, about resources - currently we do not
have resources to fix this in timely manner - if you will 
volunteer, I'll reconsider. And yeah, it makes me sad we do not
have any stronger i18n teams around that could handle all these
issues - but it's again about resources.

Even my position is called manager, I'm not one - I hope - and
still have some common sense (even engineers are sometimes that

But we are far away from the topics. Let's figure out, how we 
can make the release better (or best when we consider our 
resources) - there are fixable bugs. 


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