Fedora Installation Guide

Wed May 1 04:35:06 UTC 2013

Hi Jérôme, and other translators who have worked on the Installation 
Guide lately,

I was shocked to discover that there were so many files still accepting 
translation, because Alick Zhao and I blocked all the files in this 
project many months ago.

But I've discovered the cause. 2 months ago, in an attempt to further 
troubleshoot the problems we had with the project on Transifex, a couple 
of us did test pushes to try and get all the files on to Transifex's 
servers. Previously - including at the point when Alick and I blocked 
the files - the project contained less than half of the files it was 
supposed to, which was one of the reasons we moved the project to Zanata.

In working through that bug on github, the issue was resolved and we 
pushed all the files. However, because all work had moved to Zanata, I 
failed to consider that these newly added files needed to be blocked too.

Although the Docs Project Guide Table [1] directs translators to Zanata 
for work on both installation guides, obviously experienced Fedora 
translators are going to check Transifex first. So when you found files 
that could be translated, you understandably proceeded. This is a 
consequence of, as you say, there not being a way to inform all 
translators, without fail, of such changes, or because I was not aware 
of how to do so.

Because we want to leave the Transifex project open in the event that it 
is viable to return translation of the Installation Guide there, I will 
manually block the new files from accepting translations. However, if 
Dimitris or someone else knows a way to block access to the project 
entirely without deleting it, that would be the most future-proof method.

I would also appreciate any suggestions of where else the move to Zanata 
should be publicised to help avoid confusion in future.

I apologise to the translators who have worked on this project in 
Transifex since these new files were added. I had to push F17 files for 
testing purposes, so I'm sorry to say that your work will need to be 
redone in Zanata. I regret that the difficulties we have had managing 
this large guide have caused further problems. There have been a lot of 
plates to keep spinning.

Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns.

Thanks,

Jack

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_guides_table

On 04/30/2013 05:36 PM, Jérôme Fenal wrote:
> Hi Jack,
>
> Thanks for the pointers and the explanation.
> Do you know why the Install Guide has not been cleared from Transifex 
> after a backup?
> People are still translating the non disabled part of it, and having 
> it rot having translated & disabled is not satisfying either.
> Do I need to file a BZ to get it removed entirely from Transifex?
>
> As people come and go on a regular basis, could we also think of 
> having a regular newsletter which would remind to everybody such moves?
>
> Regards,
>
> J.
>
>
>
> 2013/4/30 Jack Reed <jreed at redhat.com <mailto:jreed at redhat.com>>
>
>     Hi Jérôme,
>
>     Great to hear that your team has targeted the Installation Guide
>     in this way.
>
>     The Installation Guide is actually translated on Zanata now, which
>     is why you've encountered these issues in the Transifex project.
>
>     I've also consolidated the Installation Quick Start Guide into the
>     Installation Guide repo, so there are a list of files that would
>     ideally be translated first so that the Quick Start Guide can be
>     ready sooner.
>
>     An explanation of this:
>     http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/trans/2013-February/010551.html
>
>     And an explanation of the move to Zanata:
>     http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/docs/2012-July/014465.html
>
>     And the project itself:
>     https://translate.zanata.org/zanata/project/view/fedora-installation-guide
>
>     Let me know if you have any more questions.
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     Jack
>
>
>
>     On 04/26/2013 06:19 AM, Jérôme Fenal wrote:
>>     Hi there,
>>
>>     The French team is considering making a special effort to advance
>>     French translation of the Fedora Installation Guide.
>>
>>     We however have a number of issues which do not ease its
>>     translation :
>>     - 877 different resources visible in Transifex, of which
>>     - a lot are read-only and not accepting translations,
>>     - a lot are one-liners, or to be correct, one stringers.
>>
>>     Could we please have a status about this guide (are there parts
>>     not to translate), and can we expect a cleanup of its setup in
>>     Transifex (major sections only, not more one-stringers)?
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Jérôme Fenal
>>
>>
>
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