Enough, already!

[Grumpy]

On Friday 10 November 2006 10:49, Andy Green wrote:
> Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> > No man I don't work or have any interest in Nvidia.  In fact I've
>
> Okay then let us establish you are not quite in fact "like Lonni".
>
> >>>> I think Kim has a point
> >>
> >>  Yeah he has a point.
> >
> > No, he does not have a point because 1) he is running a test kernel 2)
>
> ...
>
> > Nivida drivers is available on the Livna repository.  It's HIS foul by
> > using test stuff, not ours.
>
> Where did "ours" come from?  This is a binary blob delivered by a
> commercial operation which has taken an explicit decision to keep the
> sources from "us".  It's the opposite of "ours".
>
> > If you want to help in the development of the distro, you use the test
>
> The nVidia binary blob is explicitly NOT part of the distro, nor is its
> use supported by RHAT.  You put things in binary-only because you want
> to disempower people from being able to copy it around and modify it.
>
> > You call it a "binary blob", Nvidia calls it intellectual property.  And
>
> Well thanks for the clarification.  If nVidia choose to not openly
> license some of their code, it's up to them: but equally I am able to
> point out their lack of openness and disrespect it.
>
> > Since their "binary blob" is their intellectual property, and since you
> > don't OWN their intellectual property (nor should you since you don't
> > have jack invested in it), you simply need to either suck it up and get
> > your shit to work or change your thinking.  Preferably both.
>
> I don't have any nVidia graphics cards that I used for 6 months and
> more: I really don't have "jack invested in it".  You can keep your
> advice to suck stuff up: Kim has a point that binary blobs cause
> unnecessary problems, nothing that you said gainsaid it.  By all means
> have another go!
>
> -Andy
lighten up guys
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1688669524881784275