Enough, already!

[Andy Green]

Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

> No man I don't work or have any interest in Nvidia.  In fact I've

Okay then let us establish you are not quite in fact "like Lonni".

>>>> I think Kim has a point
> 
>>  Yeah he has a point.
> 
> No, he does not have a point because 1) he is running a test kernel 2)
...
> Nivida drivers is available on the Livna repository.  It's HIS foul by
> using test stuff, not ours.

Where did "ours" come from?  This is a binary blob delivered by a 
commercial operation which has taken an explicit decision to keep the 
sources from "us".  It's the opposite of "ours".

> If you want to help in the development of the distro, you use the test

The nVidia binary blob is explicitly NOT part of the distro, nor is its 
use supported by RHAT.  You put things in binary-only because you want 
to disempower people from being able to copy it around and modify it.

> You call it a "binary blob", Nvidia calls it intellectual property.  And

Well thanks for the clarification.  If nVidia choose to not openly 
license some of their code, it's up to them: but equally I am able to 
point out their lack of openness and disrespect it.

> Since their "binary blob" is their intellectual property, and since you
> don't OWN their intellectual property (nor should you since you don't
> have jack invested in it), you simply need to either suck it up and get
> your shit to work or change your thinking.  Preferably both.

I don't have any nVidia graphics cards that I used for 6 months and 
more: I really don't have "jack invested in it".  You can keep your 
advice to suck stuff up: Kim has a point that binary blobs cause 
unnecessary problems, nothing that you said gainsaid it.  By all means 
have another go!

-Andy