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Wed Jun 13 20:07:08 UTC 2007
Phil Meyer <pmeyer at themeyerfarm.com> wrote: Paul Shaffer wrote:
> My aren't you clever! Maybe if Fedora didn't routinely fail to
> perform as expected, this whole topic would be moot.
> But then those of you very clever Fedora faithful would be wont for
> fodder to express your boundless wit. How special!
I guess that expectations are the whole thing.
Fedora is bleeding edge, first to ship, with the newest and latest
'experimental' applications and services.
F7 is specifically made for those who wish to try pungi, livecd-creator,
revisor, new selinux admin tools, virtual host manager, and several
other hot technologies and advancements.
If none of those interest you, then you may be in the wrong distro.
Fedora does try to maintain the newest and latest desktop stuff as well,
but as an aside. Firefox 2, was NOT back ported to FC6, for example.
The Ubuntu releases coincide with Gnome releases. The main focus of
Ubuntu is the Gnome desktop, and user experience quality.
As a result, Ubuntu generally features an 'easier' user experience.
However, underneath that slick installer is a rigid framework that is
totally unsuitable for automated roll outs and customizations. Building
a server class system from the Ubuntu CD is ... improbable.
Fedora is a more technical Linux release than 'all' others, with an
added motivation of being a test bed for future RHE (think data center)
Understood properly, with correct expectations, Fedora continues to
release technically superior platforms. The downside is that the new
user experience may not be as 'easy' as a distro like Ubuntu.
As the Linux community as a whole continues to grow, technologies will
evolve and merge from all the best sources. That is the nature of
freedom in software.
It is unwise of us to expect Fedora to be the easiest. It may get
there, but we don't expect it.
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FYI, I was using Redhat Linux since V3 as I recall, maybe while you were still wet behind the ears? I is/was (expired) RHCT, V8, so don't take kindly being preached to about what you think Fedora is or is supposed to be, or what any user's expectations are supposed to be.
OBTW, who did the Fedora project appoint to define what Fedora's user expectations are? Did I miss that somewhere? No, I think you are one of the aforementioned "Fedora faithful," who wished to somehow characterize recent egregious failures of basic functionality in a more favorable light.
I've successfully installed, used and been quite happy with every Redhat offering since long before they went public, up to and with the exception of FC7. And I draw the line where I see self-righeous nerds making this type of banter on what is supposed to be a user-support list.
OBTW, I'm not going away and invite all comers to freely hijack this thread at will. It needs it.
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