Can one now help?

Marko Vojinovic vvmarko at
Mon Jul 19 03:50:15 UTC 2010

On Sunday, July 18, 2010 22:56:35 Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> On 7/18/10, Parshwa Murdia <b330bkn at> wrote:
>   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sda1               1        5737    46082421    7  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda2            5738       30400   198105547+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
> /dev/sda5            5738        9561    30716248+   7  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda6            9562       13385    30716248+   7  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda7           13386       15935    20482843+   7  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda8   *       15936       15961      204799+  83  Linux
> /dev/sda9           15961       28596   101487615+  8e  Linux LVM

Oh, crap! I forgot that by default the installation forces LVM on poor 

> Now, all of this ignores what's likely the case if you installed Fedora 13
> with the installation defaults.  In that case, you're likely using LVM (and
> none of the information folks have given so far is going to work).

And this is *precisely* why I hate LVM being the default. While a newbie 
typically has trouble to understand even the above output, and is completely 
lost with the added layer of complexity of LVM, when something stupid goes 
wrong it can easily become rocket science to mount and fix something inside 

And the benefit of LVM for a newbie is next to nothing, they are hardly even 
aware what LVM is and how it can be used, let alone manipulate it from a 
rescue environment.

I know LVM is useful if one needs its functionality, but it is a complete 
overkill as a default installation choice, IMNSHO. People who know they need 
it typically know how to choose it during installation. People who don't know 
about it typically don't need it. Why it is chosen by default is beyond me.

Best, :-)

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