Trends - how to save Fedora ?

inode0 inode0 at
Sun Nov 13 18:04:59 UTC 2011

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Rahul Sundaram <metherid at> wrote:
> On 11/13/2011 09:14 PM, inode0 wrote:
>> You are both correct but you are looking at the result from different
>> perspectives. Many technical improvements do happen and they are
>> admired by those who *later* use them in an enterprise distribution.
>> At the same time many of those same improvements are despised by
>> direct users of Fedora. Bringing value to the enterprise and bringing
>> value to the Fedora desktop user are two very different things.
> False dichotomy.

It is only false if you assume I meant the groups to be mutually
exclusive, which I did not mean since I am an example of a user in
both groups. We do however have a lot of users that do fall primarily
into one group or the other. How many fedora desktop end users do
backflips about new clustering technology in Fedora?

We need to appreciate that some of what Fedora provides is meant for
me and some isn't, whoever "me" is and get along.

> As a full time user of Fedora for several years, I value new
> technologies directly in Fedora and I am proud these same technologies
> have a wide impact in other distributions and in the enterprise in
> future releases.  I see it as a important part of Fedora's culture.
>> One thing that is meaningful is that the Fedora Project has many
>> people who believe Fedora is becoming less relevant to its defined
>> target audience. And those who believe this aren't just end users of
>> Fedora.
> Sure.  Point me to any large distribution who doesn't have such users or
> contributors.

I'm not interested in other large distributions and their problems.
Fedora recently had a public identity crisis which seemed to largely
be caused by this, and for a previous poster to suggest it just isn't
true or doesn't exist seems to completely ignore our very recent


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