help installing f16

[Reindl Harald]

Am 21.04.2012 21:15, schrieb Mike Wright:
> On 04/21/2012 12:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 21.04.2012 21:02, schrieb Mike Wright:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I downloaded the f16 install DVD (6.5 hours) and have been trying to install it to an lvm partition that is part of
>>> a Xen box.  Two days later I'm asking for help.
>>>
>>> Hope this doesn't sound like a rant but I'm very frustrated.  This is a description of what I've been going through
>>> with a request for help at the very basic level of "Set Up your Drives".
>>>
>>> I can't use livecd to install because that method won't install into a virtual environment and shutting down every
>>> other vm just so I can boot "bare metal" takes down my entire operation: no dns, no mail, no web, no firewall, no
>>> databases.  Nulla.  Nada.  Squatalucci.  Out of business while a livecd install takes place.  I'm not the only user
>>> here. That means I take down every other business, too.
>>
>> i stopped read here
>>
>> if ANYTHING in a virtual machine brings the host down then
>> you have a much bigger problem as this guest - this has to
>> be impossible in a working virtualization!
> 
> Thanks for your response, Reindl.
> 
> It is not a vm taking down the host.  It is I who must shutdown every vm in order to boot onto "bare metal" without
> a hypervisor.  That is required because livecd technology will not install into a virtual machine.  The only way I
> know to install into a vm is to use actual install media.

i have not tried but how should the "live cd technology" even know
that it runs in a VM? however, live-cd-to-disk in my opinion is
generally unuseable due the lack of partitioning

as said in my following post: boot with "noefi" or/and "nogpt"
i needed this even with F15 on bare metal to get a working setup
with /boot on linux RAID1 and two RAID10 for system / data
which is definitly not possible in the default anaconda >= F15
while on F14 it was a normal thing like eat and drink

a really godd example that "improvements" in Fedora often are
horrible steps backwards and only improbements for
"click, click, OK" instalaltions

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