automatic helpers which really suck!

[François Patte]

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Le 14/12/2012 08:57, Ed Greshko a écrit :
> On 12/14/2012 03:35 PM, François Patte wrote:
>> Le 14/12/2012 01:39, Steven Stern a écrit :
>>> On 12/13/2012 01:37 AM, François Patte wrote:
>>>> Bonjour,
>>>>
>>>> I installed f-17 and wanted to set my mail with thunderbird.
>>>>
>>>> New account, name, mail address, smtp.... *immediately* thunderbird
>>>> helper goes on the web to check my email server and don't find it! Why?
>>>> I really don't know: this mail address and server has been in service
>>>> for years now (and I'm using it to send this mail).... I can ping it, I
>>>> can dig it...
>>>>
>>>> And now, I am stuck: I cannot have my mail because thunderbird try to
>>>> help me, as if I was so stupid that I cannot know my own email address!
>>>>
>>>> I really don't understand what is the goal of this kind of help, even if
>>>> I make a mistake while I give my emeil server address, doomsday won't come!
>>>>
>>>> The result is: I cannot configure my mail because someone has thought
>>>> that this automatic check will help people. Stupid!
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>
>>> As soon as it starts grinding looking for the automated setup, click
>>> "Manual Config". it will give up on looking for an autodiscover record
>>> and let you enter the servers, etc. manually. No big deal.
>>
>> Very difficult! I could see once something like this: phenomenon lasted
>> for 1/10 of second and disappeared.... Most of the time, I cannot even
>> see the button you're talking about!
>>
>> As for any menu to click (suggested by other mails) it does not exist!
>> The only thing I can do is to ask for a new email address from gandi.net
>> or Hover.com Which I don't want!
>>
>> This happens on fedora 17 xfce....
> 
> I have tested on a F17 VM running xfce and a fresh install of TBird....
> 
> No problem to add an existing email....
> 
> Have a look at these....
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/d3ej8x4

I read some explanations on mozilla web page: if I want to be able to use
TB, I have to ask my university to install something on the servers...

This seems to be an attempt to freedom: you can only have an email
address on well known servers, others are kicked out.

Completely stupid!


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François Patte
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Université Paris Descartes
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