Yum and Fedora 16 -- focus on "new/moved filesystems"

[Paul Allen Newell]

On 2/9/2012 7:02 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 10.02.2012 03:54, schrieb Paul Allen Newell:
>> On 2/9/2012 6:08 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> Am 10.02.2012 02:51, schrieb Paul Allen Newell:
>>>> but for whatever reason my gut says that clean installs when F17 is released
>>>> will probably work (no bets on Rawhide as that is where the problems are
>>>> supposed to be discovered --- and notice I use the word "probably" and not
>>>> "definitely" (smile)). I am less positive about upgrades from prior Fedoras.
>>>> But, that being said, I must confess that I never do an upgrade, always a fresh
>>>> install.
>>> but there are people who are working with their machines and do
>>> not twice a year reinstall like windows - for me it takes TWO DAYS
>>> until a fresh installed machine has exactly the state i like/need
>>> to have before start working
>>>
>> Please note that I never advised that anyone else should do a fresh install rather than an upgrade. I was only
>> qualifying my opinion about "new/moved filesystems" in F17. Plus I don't think Windows has anything to do with the
>> topic or what I said ... the closest one can get in the way of comparisons is "fresh install" versus "upgrade" for
>> dealing with future Fedora changes.
> sorry, but permanently reinstall the OS is a windows-thing
> and especially unnaceptable if all 6 months a new version
> is available and you have to maintain 2, 5, 10, 20 machines
>
> a scripted dist-upgrade for 20 servers with yum takes around
> two hours (proveable by logs) inlcuding download from local
> repo-cache
>

Reindl:

Okay, I see your reasoning in using "windows-thing" comparison. I don't 
necessarily agree with it, but I can understand how it fits for what you 
are trying to say.

And clearly your situation is one that makes fresh installs more 
difficult. It sounds like you have crafted a system for handling new 
releases which works best for you.

I've got three machines, I only need one at a time, so I can take the 
hit of a fresh install as I move to a new release. Different workflow 
which makes fresh installs a better option for me (and I am only saying 
"for me")

Paul