F17 takes so long to reboot/poweroff

[Mateusz Marzantowicz]

On 25.07.2012 06:51, Richard Vickery wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:30 AM, sguazt <marco.guazzone at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Richard Vickery
>> <richard.vickeryrv at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:56 PM, sguazt <marco.guazzone at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 9:00 PM, sguazt <marco.guazzone at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> On my system, the boot phase takes only approximately 28 seconds but
>>>>> both the reboot and shutdown phase take approximately 1 minute and 10
>>>>> seconds.
>>>>>
>>>>> This did not happen with F16.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could someone help me to solve this issue?
>>>>>
>>>>> Here below are my systemd services:
>>>>>
>>>> [cut]
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>>>
>>>> So, am I the only one facing this problem?
>>>>
>>>> Any hint on what should I look for?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> -- Marco
>>>
>>> My 2 cents:
>>>
>>> Why do you need to reboot? What are you doing at power-off that you need
>> to
>>> hang around and wait for it? If a portable computer, just close it, pack
>> it
>>> away before the lights go out, and walk away? and is a minute and 38
>> seconds
>>> really SO important? If this minuscule amount time is so important, you
>>> could retire and get more of your minute and a half.
>>>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> I need to reboot/power-off mainly for 2 reasons:
>> 1. I have a dual-boot system (Linux+Win)
>> 2. The battery of my laptop has low capacity
>>
>> For what concerns the 1min and 38sec, it's not an infinity but IMHO is
>> a very long time if I compare it with F16 (that was installed on the
>> same laptop).
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -- Marco
>>
>>
> So is it crashing that you are worried about? My main, though unstated,
> point was that, at least in my opinion, time for bootup is not a concern in
> the Linux world. I think our concern has more to do with making a safe,
> secure, unbreakable computing environment. Because of the name - Beefy
> Miracle - I don't think we care about the time it takes to boot up as long
> as it works. It's just my opinion, and I could be wrong.
>
>
>

I'm not convinced that boot up time is irrelevant. Maybe for some use
cases it isn't but for other it is very important that your system boots
as quick as possible. Besides, why should I (poor computer user) waste
my time waiting while my system is performing internal tasks such as
start up and shutdown? In a perfect world there are no such things as
boot up/shutdown, you just touch the muse or press a key or open up a
lid in your notebook and the system is there ready for you. Wasn't this
the reason why computing has evolved in last 40 years?


Mateusz Marzantowicz
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