F17 takes so long to reboot/poweroff

[Richard Vickery]

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz <
mmarzantowicz at osdf.com.pl> wrote:

>  On 25.07.2012 06:51, Richard Vickery wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:30 AM, sguazt <marco.guazzone at gmail.com> <marco.guazzone at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>  On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Richard Vickery<richard.vickeryrv at gmail.com> <richard.vickeryrv at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:56 PM, sguazt <marco.guazzone at gmail.com> <marco.guazzone at gmail.com>
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>  wrote:
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>  On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 9:00 PM, sguazt <marco.guazzone at gmail.com> <marco.guazzone at gmail.com>
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>  wrote:
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>   Hello,
>
> On my system, the boot phase takes only approximately 28 seconds but
> both the reboot and shutdown phase take approximately 1 minute and 10
> seconds.
>
> This did not happen with F16.
>
> Could someone help me to solve this issue?
>
> Here below are my systemd services:
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>
>  [cut]
>
>
>  Thank you very much.
>
>
>  So, am I the only one facing this problem?
>
> Any hint on what should I look for?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Best,
>
> -- Marco
>
>  My 2 cents:
>
> Why do you need to reboot? What are you doing at power-off that you need
>
>  to
>
>  hang around and wait for it? If a portable computer, just close it, pack
>
>  it
>
>  away before the lights go out, and walk away? and is a minute and 38
>
>  seconds
>
>  really SO important? If this minuscule amount time is so important, you
> could retire and get more of your minute and a half.
>
>
>  Hi Richard,
>
> I need to reboot/power-off mainly for 2 reasons:
> 1. I have a dual-boot system (Linux+Win)
> 2. The battery of my laptop has low capacity
>
> For what concerns the 1min and 38sec, it's not an infinity but IMHO is
> a very long time if I compare it with F16 (that was installed on the
> same laptop).
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- Marco
>
>
>
>  So is it crashing that you are worried about? My main, though unstated,
> point was that, at least in my opinion, time for bootup is not a concern in
> the Linux world. I think our concern has more to do with making a safe,
> secure, unbreakable computing environment. Because of the name - Beefy
> Miracle - I don't think we care about the time it takes to boot up as long
> as it works. It's just my opinion, and I could be wrong.
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm not convinced that boot up time is irrelevant. Maybe for some use
> cases it isn't but for other it is very important that your system boots as
> quick as possible. Besides, why should I (poor computer user) waste my time
> waiting while my system is performing internal tasks such as start up and
> shutdown? In a perfect world there are no such things as boot up/shutdown,
> you just touch the muse or press a key or open up a lid in your notebook
> and the system is there ready for you. Wasn't this the reason why computing
> has evolved in last 40 years?
>
>
> Mateusz Marzantowicz
>
> You are completely free to remove those programs that waste the time that
grub calls up.
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