please stop this thread; constructive discussion can take place in a new one [was Re: Latest systemd news]

[Matthew Miller]

On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 09:15:45PM +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
> Well, if they are not yet ready or not general purpose enough to be
> used by default they should not be adopted. We have enough of not
> yet ready products and does not need any more.
> 
> But what happens when they are ready? Will they be part of Fedora then?

Lars, we have a change control process for precisely this reason. The
systemd developers and packagers in Fedora are (mostly) conscientious
about going through it.

> I have been on the RedHat/Fedora lists since about 1996 and seen the

So, you should know this.

> Rahul, precisely where in the guidelines does it say that it is, on
> this list, prohibited to discuss new functionality in a package used
> by Fedora, functionality that with huge probability will make into
> Fedora? And if it is prohibited here, where should it be discussed
> (out of the Fedora mailing lists)?

Discussing it in a useful way is fine. Waking up this troll thread
(and, it _was_ a troll thread -- there's really no question!) with
general unease does not seem constructive either. 

Let's stop this thread. New discussion about specific functionality
actually intended to discuss, share, and learn rather than inflame is
fine, but since this *is* a topic which attracts all manner of strong
feelings, please take *extra* care in any such new thread.

Thanks.


-- 
Matthew Miller
<mattdm at fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader