why do we use systemd?

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 22:10:40 -0400
Tom Horsley <horsley1953 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:56:09 -0600
> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> 
> > With systemd/journald, ALL output is saved and easy to query.
> 
> With journald all output is saved in a binary format file that

(which is fully documented)

> is impossible to query when examining a crashed system because
> is is always corrupted (especially when there are systemd
> bugs causing the crash). 9 times out of 10, you won't be able to
> boot the system again unless you remove the corrupted
> journal file (and it only takes a couple of days of searching
> to discover that is the problem :-).

Sorry to hear you ran into this.

I've run into one journald bug like that last year sometime in
rawhide... but it was pretty quickly fixed and there was a workaround
the same day I think. 

kevin
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