why do we use systemd?

[Balint Szigeti]

On Sat, 2014-07-05 at 20:15 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

> On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 22:10:40 -0400
> Tom Horsley <horsley1953 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:56:09 -0600
> > Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > 
> > > With systemd/journald, ALL output is saved and easy to query.
> > 
> > With journald all output is saved in a binary format file that
> 
> (which is fully documented)
> 
> > is impossible to query when examining a crashed system because
> > is is always corrupted (especially when there are systemd
> > bugs causing the crash). 9 times out of 10, you won't be able to
> > boot the system again unless you remove the corrupted
> > journal file (and it only takes a couple of days of searching
> > to discover that is the problem :-).
> 
> Sorry to hear you ran into this.
> 
> I've run into one journald bug like that last year sometime in
> rawhide... but it was pretty quickly fixed and there was a workaround
> the same day I think. 
> 
> kevin


but is it impossible to configure systemd to save logfile into text
files instead of journal file?
or we should have syslog service (i.e. rsyslog) for this

balint

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