why do we use systemd?

[J.Witvliet at mindef.nl]

-----Original Message-----
From: users-bounces at lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:users-bounces at lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Tom Horsley
Sent: woensdag 9 juli 2014 18:24
To: users at lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: why do we use systemd?

On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 11:57:26 -0400
Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> if anyone is pushing for alternatives, they should understand that 
> systemd isn't just a init system

Which is, of course, the primary thing that is wrong with it :-).

Unix/linux grew successfully for years by dividing things into small independent pieces and making them work on one thing well.

Systemd is now engulfing practically all of linux. A bug in one piece can make dozens of other things fail, and it is so large and complex that there *will* be bugs in pieces of it.

When there were separate bits, you could simply turn off the bits you had no need for.

A monolithic systemd can't be turned off or even down. In fact it has been instructive to watch the memory indicator in my gkrellm monitor on my not very big system at work.
It has been steadily moving up every fedora release.
-----Original Message-----

You wrote:
" Unix/linux grew successfully for years by dividing things into small independent pieces and making them work on one thing well."
I agree that separating things into small independent parts is truly a good move.

But major success factor of OpenSource software in general (not just Linux), was that you had the freedom to choose between several options.
I don't mind that some developpers spent their precious time on system, it is _their_ choice.
However, many people (not just Fedora-users/integrators, exact same feelings can be found on ML of other repo's) resent that any alternative is taken away.

Hans


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