Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I, "Why?")

[Chris Murphy]

On Mar 24, 2014, at 8:36 AM, Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 24 March 2014 01:33, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 2014-03-23 at 18:24 +0000, Liam Proven wrote:
>>> On 22 March 2014 18:25, Ed Greshko <ed.greshko at greshko.com> wrote:
>>>> Make sure you file a bugzilla.
>>> 
>>> How/why? It's not a bug.
>> 
>> If it doesn't work as it's supposed to, it's a bug.
> 
> An intentional design feature that causes a problem in an unexpected
> or unconsidered use-case is not what I'd call a bug, but hey, have it
> your own way. :-)

Right, so in your view ten years of install failures to baremetal is an intentional feature?

> 
>>>> Talking about it on this list will not result in any action.
>>> 
>>> Won't it? Why not? Are there multiple non-overlapping user communities
>>> for Fedora, then? A problem is a problem; where it is reported
>>> shouldn't matter, should it?
>> 
>> Seriously? Yes, there are multiple partially-overlapping communities.
> 
> Yes seriously. I'm new here. I have no idea who does or does not read this.

How did you find out about the list and how did you sign up for it? Doing several Google searches for Fedora user lists, the top most result is this page which makes it abundantly clear there are many Fedora lists.

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo


> 
>> Many of the developers don't read this list. Many of the people on this
>> list don't read the Test list. If you want to document a bug then use
>> Bugzilla.
> 
> As I have said, I don't think that I /can/ document it well enough to
> be of any use.

Oh so that's a reason to not even try? As I have said, you can document it. I've told you where to find the logs, and more than one way to make them available. Your lack of curiosity and active resistance to finding out the cause of these install failures is suspicious.



Chris Murphy