Netinstall download info

[Paul W. Frields]

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 03:41:41PM +0200, Robert Mayr wrote:
> 2015-09-16 15:12 GMT+02:00 Paul W. Frields <stickster at gmail.com>:
> 
> > Matthew Miller pointed me at this bug:
> > <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1263565>
> >
> > The OP had to drop back to a netinstall when he had a bad experience
> > with the KDE spin.  If there are some problems with a spin, certainly
> > the responsible SIG can work on solving that.  But in thinking about
> > the reporter's comments about finding netinstall: perhaps it would
> > make sense for the spin site to include an unobtrusive pointer to
> > Workstation or Server netinstall ISO.  This might be analogous to the
> > Other Downloads section found on the Server and Workstation download
> > pages.  Thoughts?
> 
> 
> Ok so this is a request which is not really consistent itself in my
> opinion.  The user who filed the bug wanted the KDE Spin, and he
> followed the links from our main getfedora.org website to the
> spin. That's pretty fine and it's what we want. Why should I want to
> find a Workstation netinstall image when I'm on a KDE Spin webpage?
> I think 99% of all users going to the Spins website don't want to
> find any edition image, because they are specifically looking for a
> Desktop Spin (or more even a functional spin when on labs.fp.o).

Yes, the inconsistency is because there are not separate spin
netinstalls.  (And I'm not advocating creating them, since it's a
marginal value at best.)

> Finally, the Workstation WG itself didn't want to promote the
> netinstall images at all, and we never had them on the website
> during the whole F21 release cycle. Then the WG came up and said
> they wanted to have the netinstall images for F22, but they
> shouldn't be too prominent.

There was a technical reason for the change, which was to make sure
that Boxes works well for guest VM installation.  However, the WG
wanted to avoid diverting users to a netinstall "choose your own
adventure" experience.  The Websites team came up with a good solution
here, I think.

> Actually that's what we are showing there, and if you go the
> Workstation download page you will also find easily the netinstall
> images for both architectures.  A netinstall image is kinda
> specific, and most of the users won't download it, because its use
> is trickier than a simple Live image. Therefore we also decided to
> not add any descriptions about them, which could lead to
> misunderstandings for new end users when going to get as much
> informations about the default image as possible.  My two cents
> about the topic.

I think you and I are in violent agreement. :-) In any case, I think
Mo's solution might make sense.

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