On 02/27/2014 12:49 PM, Russell Beall wrote:
Hi Rich,
Thanks for the data. I've been continuing to experiment and work on
this and especially making sure that everything that might be used in
the ACIs is indexed. All the indexes appear to be in order, but I am
confused by one thing… It looks like there is no entryDN index and
only an entryrdn index.
Correct.
This new format will be fully workable for complicated dn lookups in
the ACIs, correct? (We have a lot of "groupdn=" and "userdn="
restrictions).
Correct. groupdn= and userdn= do not use the entrydn index.
There is no one single ACI which degrades performance, but I did
notice that when adding back in certain of the ACIs, performance does
degrade quicker than should be expected just for the cost of
processing only one additional ACI. I believe there may definitely be
a problem with the indexes as you suggested but It is hiding well...
You could enable access logging of internal operations.
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Directory_Serv...
An additional symptom which may point to a server configuration
problem is a strange inability to import or reindex quickly. My small
dev VM can import several hundred entries at a time, but this server
will only import or reindex at a rate of 18-30 records per second.
I've ensured that there is plenty of import memory as well as
cachememsize which should enable a very speedy import, but even though
all 32 cores are burning bright, the import speed seems incredibly
slow. (This is of course after all indexes are created and it is
trying to index while importing. Import speed with no indexes is
fairly fast).
Any obvious clues I'm missing?
No, not sure what's going on.
Thanks,
Russ.
On Feb 19, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Rich Megginson <rmeggins(a)redhat.com
<mailto:rmeggins@redhat.com>> wrote:
> On 02/19/2014 04:56 PM, Russell Beall wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We've just set up monster-sized server nodes to run 389 as a
>> replacement to Sun DS. I've been running my tests and I am pleased
>> to report that the memory issue seems to be in check with growth
>> only up to double the initial memory usage after large quantities of
>> ldapmodify calls. We have plenty of room in these boxes to
>> accommodate caching the entire database.
>>
>> The key blocker on this is still the ACL processing times for which
>> I have been unable to find a decent resolution. We have 135 ACIs at
>> the root of the suffix. When I comment out most of them but leave
>> one service account active, processing times are very nicely fast.
>> When I leave them all on, that same service account takes 2.5
>> seconds to respond when only one request is pending. A new kink in
>> the puzzle here which is probably going to be a deal breaker is that
>> if I run the same request on multiple threads, each thread takes
>> proportionately longer to respond depending on the number of
>> threads. If I have 12 threads going doing a simple lookup, each
>> thread responds in 45-55 seconds. If I have 24 threads going, each
>> thread takes 1m45s - 1m55s to respond. The box has 32 cores
>> available. While processing, each thread is burning 100% of an
>> available CPU thread for the entire time. Theoretically when up to
>> 32 requests are simultaneously processing, each thread should return
>> in 2.5 seconds just as if it were one thread.
>
> Note that the directory server performance does not scale linearly
> with the number of cores. At some point you will run into thread
> contention. Also things like replication compete for thread resources.
>
>>
>> Since all threads are burning 100% the entire time, it doesn't seem
>> like that would be caused by simple thread locking where some
>> threads are waiting for others.
>
> No, see below.
>
>>
>> I'm thinking the system is not properly configured in some way and
>> there is a system bottleneck blocking the processing. When burning
>> the CPU there is very little percentage allocated to the user
>> percentage, most of the CPU usage is listed under the system CPU
>> usage. Is this normal, or is this indicative of some system layer
>> that is bottlenecking the processing?
>
> Sounds like the ACI may be doing some sort of unindexed internal search.
>
> Have you narrowed it down to a particular ACI that is causing the
> problem?
>>
>> Another question I posed earlier is whether or not it is possible to
>> replicate three subtrees independently and then keep the aci entry
>> at the root suffix independent so it can be set separately for
>> multiple downstream replicants. That way we could possibly
>> subdivide the service accounts across different nodes. Is that
>> possible?
>
> No.
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Russ.
>>
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>> Russell Beall
>> Systems Programmer IV
>> Enterprise Identity Management
>> University of Southern California
>> beall(a)usc.edu <mailto:beall@usc.edu>
>> ==============================
>>
>>
>>
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