From: "Neal Gompa" <ngompa13(a)gmail.com>
To: "Pavel Valena" <pvalena(a)redhat.com>
Cc: developer-portal(a)lists.fedoraproject.org, "Radka Janekova"
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:44:41 PM
Subject: [Developer-portal] Re: FDP release and statistics 10/2017: C# IDEs and Mono
updates; Python, Docker and
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Pavel Valena <pvalena(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Pavel Valena" <pvalena(a)redhat.com>
>> To: "Neal Gompa" <ngompa13(a)gmail.com>, "Radka
>> Cc: developer-portal(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>> Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 3:44:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Developer-portal] FDP release and statistics 10/2017: C#
>> IDEs and Mono updates; Python, Docker and
>> Haskell fixes
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Neal Gompa" <ngompa13(a)gmail.com>
>> > To: "Pavel Valena" <pvalena(a)redhat.com>
>> > Cc: developer-portal(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>> > Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 1:24:21 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Developer-portal] FDP release and statistics 10/2017: C#
>> > IDEs
>> > and Mono updates; Python, Docker and
>> > Haskell fixes
>> > On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Pavel Valena <pvalena(a)redhat.com>
>> > > Hello,
>> > >
>> > > new Fedora Developer Portal release is prepared on staging and will
>> > > deployed tomorrow by EOD.
>> > >
>> > > New and updated content
>> > > - C#: IDEs page by Radka Janek <radka.janek(a)redhat.com>
>> > > and Mickael Istria <mistria(a)redhat.com>
>> > >
>> > Why are we referencing JetBrains' proprietary Rider in our developer
>> > documentation? It was already a bit of a stretch with Visual Studio
>> Just a note: It's not a documentation and it's not meant to be in
>> Aimed on Developers, solely, and addressing their needs.
>> > Code, given that literally no one is working on bringing that into
>> > Fedora (but at least it is open source), but this is straight-up
>> > advocating for nonfree software, which entirely _not the point_ of
>> > Fedora Developer site.
>> Neal, the not-being-in-Fedora is actually acceptable on Developer Portal.
>> portal aims to give guidance for developers *on* Fedora, not
>> contributing *to* Fedora (or along its guidelines).
>> Regarding that, I think About page ought be fixed to reflect that more
>> clearly (any volunteers? :)).
>> From IDEs page Summary:
>> """What would we recommend? JetBrains Rider is the best C# IDE,
>> not open source."""
>> I do, however, agree that *recommended* apps or tooling should be the Open
>> Source ones. Even though It's not forbidden AFAIK.
>> Thank you for your feedback!
>>  http://developer-portal.github.io/contributing/write-introduction.html
>>  https://developer.stg.fedoraproject.org/about.html
>>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/Developer#Target_Audience
>> Radko, can you please change the order of paragraphs to reflect Fedoras'
>> stand-point, and recommend an Open-Source alternative? I'd also like the
>> JetBrains paragraph to stress that the software is proprietary and
>> Websites' deploment is postponed until this is resolved. Alternatively, I
>> delete the paragraph from resulting web page.
> I've deloyed the website without the JetBrains block.
I still see it in prod:
I assume you mean staging, where I don't see it anymore:
Well, I do not. It's been on staging since yesterday and it will, hopefully, get soon
to the main website.
What I've ment by "deployed" is that I've merged the changes into
gits' release branch.
Those are consequently (usually in few hours) pulled by Website team, in an automated way,
and reflected on an actual website.
From a different point of view, I simply did not expect anyone reading the email at
11:40pm on Saturday, few minutes after I've sent it. :)
Thanks for checking!