RHEL 8 architecture variances

[Michael Cronenworth]

The lack of uniformity among arches on RHEL 8 is becoming annoying.

The latest one is a head-scratcher:

No matching package to install: 'vulkan-devel'

Really? RHEL 8 is not shipping vulkan on all arches?

Thanks,
Michael

[Troy Dawson]

Is this really an architecture variance?
Which architecture *has* vulkan-devel?

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 2:18 PM Michael Cronenworth  wrote:
> The lack of uniformity among arches on RHEL 8 is becoming annoying.
>
> The latest one is a head-scratcher:
>
> No matching package to install: 'vulkan-devel'
>
> Really? RHEL 8 is not shipping vulkan on all arches?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
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[Stephen John Smoogen]

On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 17:18, Michael Cronenworth  wrote:
> The lack of uniformity among arches on RHEL 8 is becoming annoying.
>
> The latest one is a head-scratcher:
>
> No matching package to install: 'vulkan-devel'
>
> Really? RHEL 8 is not shipping vulkan on all arches?

The only vulkan-devel I see in RHEL-8 is

./x86_64/RHEL-8-001/non_modular/mesa-vulkan-devel-18.3.1-5.el8_0.x86_64.rpm

so s390x, aarch64 and ppc64le do not have it.

[smooge@batcave01 latest]$ find . -type f -print | grep vulkan
./x86_64/RHEL-8-001/non_modular/mesa-vulkan-devel-18.3.1-5.el8_0.x86_64.rpm
./x86_64/RHEL-8-001/non_modular/mesa-vulkan-drivers-18.3.1-5.el8_0.x86_64.rpm
./x86_64/RHEL-8-001/non_modular/vulkan-headers-1.1.101.0-1.el8_0.noarch.rpm
./x86_64/RHEL-8-001/non_modular/vulkan-loader-1.1.101.0-0.el8_0.x86_64.rpm
./x86_64/RHEL-8-001/non_modular/vulkan-loader-devel-1.1.101.0-0.el8_0.x86_64.rpm
./x86_64/RHEL-8-001/non_modular/vulkan-tools-1.1.101.0-1.el8_0.x86_64.rpm
./x86_64/RHEL-8-001/non_modular/vulkan-validation-layers-1.1.101.0-1.el8_0.x86_64.rpm

so it looks like vulkan is only for x86_64 and no they did not ship
the development packages. I believe this is one of those.. will need
to be a module.
> Thanks,
> Michael
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[Troy Dawson]

Actually, looking closer, there is not package called "vulkan".
So, not having 'vulkan-devel' is very logical.

For RHEL8 vulkan synced with F29, which split it's packaging up.  In
vulkan's place is

vulkan-headers
vulkan-loader
vulkan-tools
vulkan-validation-layers

So, look what you would use in Fedora right now, and use the
appropriate package(s)

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 2:33 PM Stephen John Smoogen  wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 17:18, Michael Cronenworth  wrote:
> > The lack of uniformity among arches on RHEL 8 is becoming annoying.
> >
> > The latest one is a head-scratcher:
> >
> > No matching package to install: 'vulkan-devel'
> >
> > Really? RHEL 8 is not shipping vulkan on all arches?
>
> The only vulkan-devel I see in RHEL-8 is
>
> ./x86_64/RHEL-8-001/non_modular/mesa-vulkan-devel-18.3.1-5.el8_0.x86_64.rpm
>
> so s390x, aarch64 and ppc64le do not have it.
>
> [smooge@batcave01 latest]$ find . -type f -print | grep vulkan
> ./x86_64/RHEL-8-001/non_modular/mesa-vulkan-devel-18.3.1-5.el8_0.x86_64.rpm
> ./x86_64/RHEL-8-001/non_modular/mesa-vulkan-drivers-18.3.1-5.el8_0.x86_64.rpm
> ./x86_64/RHEL-8-001/non_modular/vulkan-headers-1.1.101.0-1.el8_0.noarch.rpm
> ./x86_64/RHEL-8-001/non_modular/vulkan-loader-1.1.101.0-0.el8_0.x86_64.rpm
> ./x86_64/RHEL-8-001/non_modular/vulkan-loader-devel-1.1.101.0-0.el8_0.x86_64.rpm
> ./x86_64/RHEL-8-001/non_modular/vulkan-tools-1.1.101.0-1.el8_0.x86_64.rpm
> ./x86_64/RHEL-8-001/non_modular/vulkan-validation-layers-1.1.101.0-1.el8_0.x86_64.rpm
>
> so it looks like vulkan is only for x86_64 and no they did not ship
> the development packages. I believe this is one of those.. will need
> to be a module.
> > Thanks,
> > Michael
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[Michael Cronenworth]

On 9/24/19 4:41 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:
> Actually, looking closer, there is not package called "vulkan".
> So, not having 'vulkan-devel' is very logical.
>
> For RHEL8 vulkan synced with F29, which split it's packaging up.  In
> vulkan's place is
>
> vulkan-headers
> vulkan-loader
> vulkan-tools
> vulkan-validation-layers
>
> So, look what you would use in Fedora right now, and use the
> appropriate package(s)

Yes, the 'vulkan' package has seen some interesting package splitting over the years.

Today, vulkan-devel is a virtual provides by vulkan-loader. The 
'vulkan-loader-devel' package is what I really want, but that package is not 
provided in aarch64 either.

What now?

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 18:03, Michael Cronenworth  wrote:
> On 9/24/19 4:41 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:
> > Actually, looking closer, there is not package called "vulkan".
> > So, not having 'vulkan-devel' is very logical.
> >
> > For RHEL8 vulkan synced with F29, which split it's packaging up.  In
> > vulkan's place is
> >
> > vulkan-headers
> > vulkan-loader
> > vulkan-tools
> > vulkan-validation-layers
> >
> > So, look what you would use in Fedora right now, and use the
> > appropriate package(s)
>
> Yes, the 'vulkan' package has seen some interesting package splitting over the years.
>
> Today, vulkan-devel is a virtual provides by vulkan-loader. The
> 'vulkan-loader-devel' package is what I really want, but that package is not
> provided in aarch64 either.
>
> What now?

At the moment exclusive arch x86_64 would be it.

[Michael Cronenworth]

On 9/25/19 5:58 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> At the moment exclusive arch x86_64 would be it.

:(

Thanks, Stephen.