Re: Partially hinted fonts
by Masahiro Sekiguchi
> I have noticed that several of the non-Latin fonts we ship in Fedora contain
> partial hinting information, usually not covering (or covering only very
> poorly) the intended target alphabet(s) of the fonts.
It is a common practice in so-called CJK regions.
> This is a problem because the version of Freetype in Fedora 15 will see that
> there is some hinting bytecode and try to use the bytecode interpreter
> rather than the autohinter on the entire font. If the relevant characters
> are then not actually hinted, those characters will be entirely unhinted,
> looking blurry.
Hmm. I didn't noticed it.
It is really a big problem. With very few exceptions, almost all CJK
fonts are *partically* hinted. (I'm not familiar with fonts for other
scripts, but I guess there are some more with similar situations.)
That means most of the CJK fonts will not work well in Fedora.
> According to Freetype upstream, you should remove all hinting bytecode from
> the fonts if it's not complete.
> Please go through your fonts, especially non-Latin fonts, looking for
> hinting bytecode, and if it isn't anywhere near complete, please remove it
> from the font.
It may be acceptable for a short term workaround, but I don't think it
is an appropriate solution. We could remove those partial hints from
all the Fedora distributed fonts, but we have no control over other
fonts; there are many free or commercial CJK fonts other than those
packaged in Fedora, that are partially hinted. If we go you-should-
remove-all-partial-hints-if-you-want-to- use-it-on-Fedora direction,
Fedora users will be effectively unable to use those fonts, that IMHO
is not a good idea.
What happens if I propose Fedora to simply exclude those bytecode
support in Fedora distribution of FreeType, as in the past?
13 years
Partially hinted fonts
by Kevin Kofler
Hi,
I have noticed that several of the non-Latin fonts we ship in Fedora contain
partial hinting information, usually not covering (or covering only very
poorly) the intended target alphabet(s) of the fonts.
In particular, several of our CJK fonts include hinting information only for
Latin characters, or otherwise covering few to no CJK ideographs.
This is a problem because the version of Freetype in Fedora 15 will see that
there is some hinting bytecode and try to use the bytecode interpreter
rather than the autohinter on the entire font. If the relevant characters
are then not actually hinted, those characters will be entirely unhinted,
looking blurry.
According to Freetype upstream, you should remove all hinting bytecode from
the fonts if it's not complete. If Freetype sees that there's no hinting
bytecode, it will now automatically fallback to the autohinter. (I got that
fixed, see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=547532 .) But the
patch doesn't help for partially hinted fonts, and Freetype upstream told me
they don't want to support these anyway (see
https://savannah.nongnu.org/patch/index.php?7471#comment9 – they say that
"auto-hinting single glyphs won't give satisfying results since the glyphs
won't blend with other, natively hinted ones").
See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=682667 for how this affects
the Indic Lohit fonts, which are now being fixed by removing the offending
hinting bytecode.
Please go through your fonts, especially non-Latin fonts, looking for
hinting bytecode, and if it isn't anywhere near complete, please remove it
from the font. (If your font is a CJK font, the hinting bytecode is very
unlikely to be anywhere near complete.) This will make your font look much
better in Fedora 15 and higher (and Fedora 13/14 with freetype-freeworld,
which was always built with the bytecode interpreter enabled and now also
includes the auto-autohint magic, as of freetype-freeworld-2.4.2-5.fc14 and
freetype-freeworld-2.3.11-6.fc13).
Thank you for your cooperation,
Kevin Kofler
13 years, 1 month
missing the fonts of CID Speedo etc.
by feigle.dou
Greeting all,
I am using the FC 14 32bit, after the installation, I tried to use
installed VNC-server, but when starting VNC there are wrong massage:
---------snip-------------------------
vncext: VNC extension running!
vncext: Listening for VNC connections on port 5902
vncext: created VNC server for screen 0
error opening security policy file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list!
----------snip end------------------
After struggling for a long time, i got other font worked. but i can not find or install
CID fonts.
And, I know that RedHat get the vnc server installed automaticlly, can FC 14 do it also.
Any suggestion will be appreciated.
Thanks,
feigle
2011-03-30
feigle.dou
13 years, 1 month
Re: fontforge in f15
by Nicolas Mailhot
Le Dim 20 mars 2011 17:50, Kevin Fenzi a écrit :
> Greetings.
>
> Currently we are shipping fontforge-20100501 in f15.
>
> fontforge-20110222 is available (and in rawhide).
>
> What would folks think about updating f15?
> It's a bugfix release, so I wouldn't expect any big issues, but I thought I
would check with everyone before doing so.
>
> http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/changelog.html#change-log
> has a list of changes.
That would be nice but I'd really like the existing font packages to be
rebuilt against this version to make sure there is no regression and someone
who tries to rebuild a fedora font package with the fedora fontconfig gets the
same results as us.
And that needs someone to notify package owners, give them the time to rebuild
their packages if they want to, rebuild in their stead otherwise.
BTW : it's really nice to see all the fontconfig bugs squashed upstream those
past months because Fedora people reported them (sometimes with patches), keep
up the good work!
--
Nicolas Mailhot
13 years, 1 month
fontforge in f15
by Kevin Fenzi
Greetings.
Currently we are shipping fontforge-20100501 in f15.
fontforge-20110222 is available (and in rawhide).
What would folks think about updating f15?
It's a bugfix release, so I wouldn't expect any big issues, but I
thought I would check with everyone before doing so.
http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/changelog.html#change-log
has a list of changes.
Thoughts?
kevin
13 years, 1 month
Fixing glob2
by Bruno Wolff III
glob2 includes a single ttf file that I can probably replace with a symlink to
dejavu sans. Based on a an upstream discussion about an aborted switch to a
nonfree font, I suspect the font is free, but is there some way to check? The
font name in the source is just sans.ttf which isn't very revealing. I haven't
stumbled across documentation on where the font came from yet. Is there a tool
that can report the source from the ttf file? If I can't find the source of the
font, should I strip it from the source tarball?
13 years, 1 month
