Anyone interested in packaging Google Noto fonts?

[Behdad Esfahbod]

https://code.google.com/p/noto/

I will package this for Fedora.

Regards,
Pravin Satpute

On 30 March 2013 10:37, Behdad Esfahbod  wrote:
> https://code.google.com/p/noto/
>
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Hi Behdad,

While further checking Noto fonts, i found that these fonts are same as
already packaged google-droid-sans-fonts. I have tested following script
fonts.

1. Devanagari: Outline is same in Noto and Droid
2. Tamil : Outline is same in Noto and Droid
3. Armenian:  Outline is same in Noto and Droid

Droid looks bit older version 1.02 and Noto is latest version 1.03. Noto
has hinting information while Droid is unhinted.

Considering this, i think we can either keep Droid or Noto in fedora.
Noto has more preference since its latest version.

If you know difference please update me with it.

Regards,
Pravin Satpute

On 3 April 2013 10:07, [e-mail]  wrote:
> I will package this for Fedora.
>
> Regards,
> Pravin Satpute
>
> On 30 March 2013 10:37, Behdad Esfahbod  wrote:
> > https://code.google.com/p/noto/
> >
> > --
> > behdad
> > http://behdad.org/
> > _______________________________________________
> > fonts mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fonts
> > http://fonts.fedoraproject.org/

[Dave Crossland]

Hi

Noto is new Droid so needs to be packaged, yes :-)

Cheers
Dave
On Apr 4, 2013 10:09 AM, "[e-mail]" 
wrote:
> Hi Behdad,
>
> While further checking Noto fonts, i found that these fonts are same as
> already packaged google-droid-sans-fonts. I have tested following script
> fonts.
>
> Devanagari: Outline is same in Noto and Droid
>
> Tamil : Outline is same in Noto and Droid
>
> Armenian:  Outline is same in Noto and Droid
>
> Droid looks bit older version 1.02 and Noto is latest version 1.03.
>
> Noto has hinting information while Droid is unhinted.
>
> Considering this, i think we can either keep Droid or Noto in fedora.
> Noto has more preference since its latest version.
>
> If you know difference please update me with it.
>
> Regards,
> Pravin Satpute
>
> On 3 April 2013 10:07, [e-mail]  wrote:
> > I will package this for Fedora.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pravin Satpute
> >
> > On 30 March 2013 10:37, Behdad Esfahbod  wrote:
> > > https://code.google.com/p/noto/
> > >
> > > --
> > > behdad
> > > http://behdad.org/
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > fonts mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fonts
> > > http://fonts.fedoraproject.org/
>
> fonts mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fonts
> http://fonts.fedoraproject.org/

[Behdad Esfahbod]

Hi Pravin,

Noto replaces Droid moving forward, and has far wider coverage and better
hints, and will get new scripts added over time.  So perhaps initially have
both, then have Noto obsolete Droid, and add fontconfig rules to that effect...

behdad

On 13-04-04 05:09 AM, [e-mail] wrote:
> Hi Behdad,
>
> While further checking Noto fonts, i found that these fonts are same as
> already packaged google-droid-sans-fonts. I have tested following script fonts.
>
> Devanagari: Outline is same in Noto and Droid
>
> Tamil : Outline is same in Noto and Droid
>
> Armenian:  Outline is same in Noto and Droid
>
> Droid looks bit older version 1.02 and Noto is latest version 1.03. Noto
>
> has hinting information while Droid is unhinted.
>
> Considering this, i think we can either keep Droid or Noto in fedora. Noto
> has more preference since its latest version.
>
> If you know difference please update me with it.
>
> Regards,
> Pravin Satpute
>
> On 3 April 2013 10:07, [e-mail] 
> <[e-mail] > wrote:
> I will package this for Fedora.
>
> Regards,
> Pravin Satpute
>
>
> On 30 March 2013 10:37, Behdad Esfahbod <[e-mail]
> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>     https://code.google.com/p/noto/
>
>     --
>     behdad
>     http://behdad.org/
>     _______________________________________________
>     fonts mailing list
>     [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>     https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fonts
>     http://fonts.fedoraproject.org/

[Denis Jacquerye]

Great!

Noto and Droid do not have the same outlines for Latin/Greek/Cyrillic.
Noto Sans is a little bit wider but not as wide as Open Sans if I
recall correctly.
If documents are set with Droid it would be nice to have the fonts
still available in the future in some way or another.

Cheers,
Denis Moyogo Jacquerye

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Behdad Esfahbod  wrote:
> Hi Pravin,
>
> Noto replaces Droid moving forward, and has far wider coverage and better
> hints, and will get new scripts added over time.  So perhaps initially have
> both, then have Noto obsolete Droid, and add fontconfig rules to that effect...
>
> behdad
>
> On 13-04-04 05:09 AM, [e-mail] wrote:
> > Hi Behdad,
> >
> > While further checking Noto fonts, i found that these fonts are same as
> > already packaged google-droid-sans-fonts. I have tested following script fonts.
> >
> > Devanagari: Outline is same in Noto and Droid
> >
> > Tamil : Outline is same in Noto and Droid
> >
> > Armenian:  Outline is same in Noto and Droid
> >
> > Droid looks bit older version 1.02 and Noto is latest version 1.03. Noto
> >
> > has hinting information while Droid is unhinted.
> >
> > Considering this, i think we can either keep Droid or Noto in fedora. Noto
> > has more preference since its latest version.
> >
> > If you know difference please update me with it.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pravin Satpute
> >
> > On 3 April 2013 10:07, [e-mail] 
> > <[e-mail] > wrote:
> > I will package this for Fedora.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pravin Satpute
> >
> >
> > On 30 March 2013 10:37, Behdad Esfahbod <[e-mail]
> > <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >
> >     https://code.google.com/p/noto/
> >
> >     --
> >     behdad
> >     http://behdad.org/
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     fonts mailing list
> >     [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
> >     https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fonts
> >     http://fonts.fedoraproject.org/
>
> --
> behdad
> http://behdad.org/
> _______________________________________________
> fonts mailing list
> [e-mail]
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fonts
> http://fonts.fedoraproject.org/

--
Denis Moyogo Jacquerye
African Network for Localisation http://www.africanlocalisation.net/
Nkótá ya Kongó míbalé --- http://info-langues-congo.1sd.org/
DejaVu fonts --- http://www.dejavu-fonts.org/

On 4 April 2013 23:26, Denis Jacquerye  wrote:
> Great!
>
> Noto and Droid do not have the same outlines for Latin/Greek/Cyrillic.
> Noto Sans is a little bit wider but not as wide as Open Sans if I
> recall correctly.
> If documents are set with Droid it would be nice to have the fonts
> still available in the future in some way or another.

Sure will take care for that.

Regards,
Pravin Satpute
> Cheers,
> Denis Moyogo Jacquerye
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Behdad Esfahbod  wrote:
> > Hi Pravin,
> >
> > Noto replaces Droid moving forward, and has far wider coverage and better
> > hints, and will get new scripts added over time.  So perhaps initially
>
> have
> > both, then have Noto obsolete Droid, and add fontconfig rules to that
>
> effect...
> > behdad
> >
> > On 13-04-04 05:09 AM, [e-mail] wrote:
> > > Hi Behdad,
> > >
> > > While further checking Noto fonts, i found that these fonts are same
>
> as
> > > already packaged google-droid-sans-fonts. I have tested following
>
> script fonts.
> > > Devanagari: Outline is same in Noto and Droid
> > >
> > > Tamil : Outline is same in Noto and Droid
> > >
> > > Armenian:  Outline is same in Noto and Droid
> > >
> > > Droid looks bit older version 1.02 and Noto is latest version 1.03.
>
> Noto
> > > has hinting information while Droid is unhinted.
> > >
> > > Considering this, i think we can either keep Droid or Noto in
>
> fedora. Noto
> > > has more preference since its latest version.
> > >
> > > If you know difference please update me with it.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Pravin Satpute
> > >
> > > On 3 April 2013 10:07, [e-mail] <mailto:
>
> [e-mail]>
> > > <[e-mail] > wrote:
> > > I will package this for Fedora.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Pravin Satpute
> > >
> > >
> > > On 30 March 2013 10:37, Behdad Esfahbod <[e-mail]
> > > <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     https://code.google.com/p/noto/
> > >
> > >     --
> > >     behdad
> > >     http://behdad.org/
> > >     _______________________________________________
> > >     fonts mailing list
> > >     [e-mail] <mailto:
>
> [e-mail]>
> > >     https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fonts
> > >     http://fonts.fedoraproject.org/
> >
> > --
> > behdad
> > http://behdad.org/
> > _______________________________________________
> > fonts mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fonts
> > http://fonts.fedoraproject.org/
>
> --
> Denis Moyogo Jacquerye
> African Network for Localisation http://www.africanlocalisation.net/
> Nkótá ya Kongó míbalé --- http://info-langues-congo.1sd.org/
> DejaVu fonts --- http://www.dejavu-fonts.org/

On 4 April 2013 21:33, Behdad Esfahbod  wrote:
> Hi Pravin,
>
> Noto replaces Droid moving forward, and has far wider coverage and better
> hints, and will get new scripts added over time.  So perhaps initially have
> both, then have Noto obsolete Droid, and add fontconfig rules to that
> effect...

Yes,
looks fare enough.

Thanks Behdad and Dave for confirmation.

Regards,
Pravin Satpute
> behdad
>
> On 13-04-04 05:09 AM, [e-mail] wrote:
> > Hi Behdad,
> >
> > While further checking Noto fonts, i found that these fonts are same
>
> as
> > already packaged google-droid-sans-fonts. I have tested following script
>
> fonts.
> > Devanagari: Outline is same in Noto and Droid
> >
> > Tamil : Outline is same in Noto and Droid
> >
> > Armenian:  Outline is same in Noto and Droid
> >
> > Droid looks bit older version 1.02 and Noto is latest version 1.03.
>
> Noto
> > has hinting information while Droid is unhinted.
> >
> > Considering this, i think we can either keep Droid or Noto in fedora.
>
> Noto
> > has more preference since its latest version.
> >
> > If you know difference please update me with it.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pravin Satpute
> >
> > On 3 April 2013 10:07, [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]
> >
> > <[e-mail] > wrote:
> > I will package this for Fedora.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pravin Satpute
> >
> >
> > On 30 March 2013 10:37, Behdad Esfahbod <[e-mail]
> > <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >
> >     https://code.google.com/p/noto/
> >
> >     --
> >     behdad
> >     http://behdad.org/
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     fonts mailing list
> >     [e-mail] <mailto:
>
> [e-mail]>
> >     https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fonts
> >     http://fonts.fedoraproject.org/
>
> --
> behdad
> http://behdad.org/

I have requested upstream to improve release structure bit. Good news is
upstream agreed for that :)
Hoping it will happen by coming weeks. Then i will start packaging.

Regards,
Pravin Satpute

On 5 April 2013 10:18, [e-mail]  wrote:
> On 4 April 2013 21:33, Behdad Esfahbod  wrote:
> > Hi Pravin,
> >
> > Noto replaces Droid moving forward, and has far wider coverage and better
> > hints, and will get new scripts added over time.  So perhaps initially
> > have
> > both, then have Noto obsolete Droid, and add fontconfig rules to that
> > effect...
>
> Yes,
> looks fare enough.
>
> Thanks Behdad and Dave for confirmation.
>
> Regards,
> Pravin Satpute
> > behdad
> >
> > On 13-04-04 05:09 AM, [e-mail] wrote:
> > > Hi Behdad,
> > >
> > > While further checking Noto fonts, i found that these fonts are same
> >
> > as
> > > already packaged google-droid-sans-fonts. I have tested following
> >
> > script fonts.
> > > Devanagari: Outline is same in Noto and Droid
> > >
> > > Tamil : Outline is same in Noto and Droid
> > >
> > > Armenian:  Outline is same in Noto and Droid
> > >
> > > Droid looks bit older version 1.02 and Noto is latest version 1.03.
> >
> > Noto
> > > has hinting information while Droid is unhinted.
> > >
> > > Considering this, i think we can either keep Droid or Noto in
> >
> > fedora. Noto
> > > has more preference since its latest version.
> > >
> > > If you know difference please update me with it.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Pravin Satpute
> > >
> > > On 3 April 2013 10:07, [e-mail] <mailto:
> >
> > [e-mail]>
> > > <[e-mail] > wrote:
> > > I will package this for Fedora.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Pravin Satpute
> > >
> > >
> > > On 30 March 2013 10:37, Behdad Esfahbod <[e-mail]
> > > <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     https://code.google.com/p/noto/
> > >
> > >     --
> > >     behdad
> > >     http://behdad.org/
> > >     _______________________________________________
> > >     fonts mailing list
> > >     [e-mail] <mailto:
> >
> > [e-mail]>
> > >     https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fonts
> > >     http://fonts.fedoraproject.org/
> >
> > --
> > behdad
> > http://behdad.org/

[Nicolas Mailhot]

Le Mar 9 avril 2013 09:58, [e-mail] a écrit :
> I have requested upstream to improve release structure bit. Good news is
> upstream agreed for that :)
> Hoping it will happen by coming weeks. Then i will start packaging.

Hopefully Noto layout will be less hairy than Droid. But in any case, if
you want Noto ←→ Droid cross fallback it is going to be very complex
(Droid rules are already the most complex ones we ship)

I strongly suggest you take a look at our Droid rules now and take the
problems you see into account when communicating with Noto upstream.

Regards,

On 10 April 2013 12:58, Nicolas Mailhot  wrote:
> Le Mar 9 avril 2013 09:58, [e-mail] a écrit :
> > I have requested upstream to improve release structure bit. Good news is
> > upstream agreed for that :)
> > Hoping it will happen by coming weeks. Then i will start packaging.
>
> Hopefully Noto layout will be less hairy than Droid. But in any case, if
> you want Noto ←→ Droid cross fallback it is going to be very complex
> (Droid rules are already the most complex ones we ship)
>
> I strongly suggest you take a look at our Droid rules now and take the
> problems you see into account when communicating with Noto upstream.

Yes, i am referring fedora droid package.

I think it will be good if you can comment on noto-fonts mailing list
itself for upstream release improvement.

It is available at
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/noto-font/BBJt2F8bfD4

Regards,
Pravin Satpute