[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 491043] New: ibus Enable IM engine for particular language automatically

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Summary: ibus Enable IM engine for particular language automatically

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Summary: ibus Enable IM engine for particular language
                    automatically
           Product: Fedora
           Version: 10
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: medium
          Priority: low
         Component: ibus
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]
         QAContact: [e-mail]
                CC: [e-mail], [e-mail]
            Blocks: 446452,481098
   Estimated Hours: 0.0
    Classification: Fedora
    Target Release: ---

If you login to a desktop with a particular language like Japanese, it should
automatically enable that ibus engine.  The user shouldn't be required to
manually go into the ibus Preferences and enable the engine.

Perhaps ibus engines should register with ibus a mapping table of language
codes to preferred engine.  This means:

* If the user runs ibus as LANG=ja_JP, then activate ibus-anthy.
* If the user runs ibus as LANG=ko_KR, then activate ibus-hangul.
* (Many other languages, you pretty much expect the user will want a particular
engine or table.  Enable it automatically.)
* (Some languages are less certain because there are multiple engines or tables
for that language.  In that case it should pick the most common one.  This
isn't too bad for users who need something else, because they would have done
to manually configure it anyway.)

[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 491043] ibus Enable IM engine for particular language automatically

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--- Comment #1 from Huang Peng   2009-03-19 21:42:40 EDT ---
Ibus supports it.
Please install latest ibus in rawhide, and try to create a new user and login
with ja or ko locale. If it does not work, please tell me.

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--- Comment #2 from Warren Togami   2009-03-19 22:56:17 EDT ---
That is true only of the first login.  I am talking about logins after the
first.

Core to this issue, if a user logs in to a Japanese desktop, they would expect
Japanese IM to work.  If they login to Korean, they would expect Korean IM to
work.  All other reasons not to do this are unimportant.

There are complications sure, like what if there are multiple engines for that
language?  In that case enable only one that is the most preferred for that
language.

Sure "most preferred" for Chinese this is less clear.  But for nearly every
other language the expectation is clear.

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--- Comment #3 from Jens Petersen   2009-03-23 05:13:46 EDT ---
During some discussion one idea that came up was to have a "Use default input
method" checkbox above the IME selector in ibus-setup.

[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 491043] ibus use default IM engine for language always when no user engines set

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             Blocks|446452(F11Blocker)          |
            Summary|ibus Enable IM engine for   |ibus use default IM engine
                   |particular language         |for language always when no
                   |automatically               |user engines set

--- Comment #4 from Jens Petersen   2009-03-24 04:19:05 EDT ---
I am removing this from the Blocker list since I think we agreed it is not so
important: might still be good to do something to improve this.

[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 491043] ibus "Use automatic engine selection" checkbox

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            Summary|ibus use default IM engine  |ibus "Use automatic engine
                   |for language always when no |selection" checkbox
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--- Comment #5 from Warren Togami   2009-03-24 13:07:48 EDT ---
Proposed Behavior
* "Use automatic engine selection" checkbox enabled by default.  This makes
ibus always run the preferred engine for the desktop language.
* If unchecked, then it always uses whatever is defined by the user in the
Preferences, no matter what the desktop language is.

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 491043] [post-F11] ibus "Use automatic engine selection" checkbox

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            Summary|ibus "Use automatic engine  |[post-F11] ibus "Use
                   |selection" checkbox         |automatic engine selection"
                   |                            |checkbox

[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 491043] ibus "Use automatic engine selection" checkbox?

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            Summary|[post-F11] ibus "Use        |ibus "Use automatic engine
                   |automatic engine selection" |selection" checkbox?
                   |checkbox                    |

[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 491043] ibus "Use automatic engine selection" checkbox?

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--- Comment #6 from Jens Petersen   2009-06-04 00:18:44 EDT ---
Warren do you think we really still need this?

I am pretty happy now with the current UI.

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--- Comment #8 from Huang Peng   2009-06-11 23:23:36 EDT ---
I think this option will confuse normal users. Most users just use one locale.
Even if some users will use two or three locales, most of them also wish the
enabled engines be constant. So I would like close this bug as wontfix.