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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1164177
Bug ID: 1164177
Summary: fontconfig does not properly match Helvetica
Product: Fedora
Version: 20
Component: fontconfig
Assignee: tagoh(a)redhat.com
Reporter: matthew.hirsch(a)gmail.com
QA Contact: extras-qa(a)fedoraproject.org
CC: fonts-bugs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org,
i18n-bugs(a)lists.fedoraproject.org, pnemade(a)redhat.com,
tagoh(a)redhat.com
External Bug ID: Launchpad 504235
External Bug ID: Launchpad 504235
Description of problem: When asked to match Helvetica, fontconfig seems to
match the narrowest variant installed on the system.
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
fontconfig-2.11.0-2.fc20.x86_64
fontconfig-2.11.0-2.fc20.i686
How reproducible:
Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Have Helvetica, Helvetica-Narrow installed in /usr/share/fonts
2. $ fc-match Helvetica
Actual results:
$fc-match Helvetica
Helvetica-Narrow.ttf: "Helvetica" "Narrow"
Expected results:
$fc-match Helvetica
Helvetica.ttf: "Helvetica" "Regular"
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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1164177] fontconfig does not properly match Helvetica
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1164177
Matt Hirsch <matthew.hirsch(a)gmail.com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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External Bug ID| |Red Hat Bugzilla 226973
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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1164177] fontconfig does not properly match Helvetica
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1164177
--- Comment #1 from Matt Hirsch <matthew.hirsch(a)gmail.com> ---
Created attachment 957456
--> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=957456&action=edit
output of fc-match command with FC_DEBUG=3
$ export FC_DEBUG=3
$ fc-match Helvetica > fc-match-debug
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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1164177] fontconfig does not properly match Helvetica
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1164177
Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|NEW |CLOSED
Resolution|--- |NOTABUG
Last Closed| |2014-11-17 04:14:51
--- Comment #2 from Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com> ---
According to the debugging log:
Font 120 Pattern has 22 elts (size 22)
family: "Helvetica"(w) "Helvetica Narrow"(w)
familylang: "en"(w) "en"(w)
style: "Narrow"(w) "Regular"(w)
stylelang: "en"(w) "en"(w)
fullname: "Helvetica-Narrow"(w)
fullnamelang: "en"(w)
slant: 0(i)(w)
weight: 100(i)(w)
width: 100(i)(w)
foundry: "unknown"(w)
file: "/usr/share/fonts/macos/Helvetica-Narrow.ttf"(w)
index: 0(i)(w)
outline: True(w)
scalable: True(w)
charset:
0000: 00000000 ffffffff ffffffff 7fffffff 00000000 ff5fdffe ffffffff
ffffffff
0001: 00000000 00020000 000c0006 61000003 00040000 00000000 00000000
00000000
0002: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 3f0000c0
00000000
0003: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 10000000 00000000
00000000
0020: 77180000 06010047 00000010 00000000 00000000 00001000 00000000
00000000
0021: 00000000 00000004 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000000
0022: 00040000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000000
00fb: 00000006 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000000
(w)
lang:
aa|ay|bi|br|ch|co|da|de|en|es|et|eu|fi|fj|fo|fr|fur|fy|gd|gl|gv|ho|ia|id|ie|io|is|it|lb|mg|nb|nds|nl|nn|no|nr|nso|oc|om|pt|rm|sma|smj|so|sq|ss|st|sv|sw|tl|tn|ts|uz|vo|vot|wa|xh|yap|zu|an|fil|ht|jv|kj|kwm|li|ms|ng|pap-an|pap-aw|rn|rw|sc|sg|sn|su|za(w)
fontversion: 65536(i)(w)
capability: "otlayout:latn"(w)
fontformat: "TrueType"(w)
decorative: False(w)
hash:
"sha256:577eb1902dadf25d3714a054eee40a9d86c23646efd23b82aa71ca519a175fff"(w)
postscriptname: "Helvetica-Narrow"(w)
family: 1 "Helvetica"(s) "DejaVu Sans"(w) "PT Sans"(w)
"Liberation Sans
Narrow"(w) "Bitstream Vera Sans"(w) "DejaVu Sans"(w)
"Verdana"(w) "Arial"(w)
"Albany AMT"(w) "Luxi Sans"(w) "Nimbus Sans L"(w)
"Helvetica"(w) "Lucida Sans
Unicode"(w) "BPG Glaho International"(w) "Tahoma"(w)
"Carlito"(w) "Droid
Sans"(w) "Nachlieli"(w) "Lucida Sans Unicode"(w) "Yudit
Unicode"(w) "Kerkis"(w)
"ArmNet Helvetica"(w) "Artsounk"(w) "BPG UTF8 M"(w)
"Waree"(w) "Loma"(w)
"Garuda"(w) "Umpush"(w) "Saysettha Unicode"(w) "JG Lao
Old Arial"(w) "GF Zemen
Unicode"(w) "Pigiarniq"(w) "B Davat"(w) "B Compset"(w)
"Kacst-Qr"(w) "Urdu
Nastaliq Unicode"(w) "Raghindi"(w) "Mukti Narrow"(w)
"malayalam"(w)
"Sampige"(w) "padmaa"(w) "Hapax Berbère"(w) "MS
Gothic"(w) "UmePlus P
Gothic"(w) "SimSun"(w) "PMingLiu"(w) "WenQuanYi Zen
Hei"(w) "WenQuanYi Bitmap
Song"(w) "AR PL ShanHeiSun Uni"(w) "AR PL New Sung"(w)
"MgOpen Modata"(w) "VL
Gothic"(w) "IPAMonaGothic"(w) "IPAGothic"(w) "Sazanami
Gothic"(w) "Kochi
Gothic"(w) "AR PL KaitiM GB"(w) "AR PL KaitiM Big5"(w) "AR
PL ShanHeiSun
Uni"(w) "AR PL SungtiL GB"(w) "AR PL Mingti2L Big5"(w) "ＭＳ
ゴシック"(w)
"ZYSong18030"(w) "TSCu_Paranar"(w) "NanumGothic"(w)
"UnDotum"(w) "Baekmuk
Dotum"(w) "Baekmuk Gulim"(w) "KacstQura"(w) "Lohit
Bengali"(w) "Lohit
Gujarati"(w) "Lohit Hindi"(w) "Lohit Marathi"(w) "Lohit
Maithili"(w) "Lohit
Kashmiri"(w) "Lohit Konkani"(w) "Lohit Nepali"(w) "Lohit
Sindhi"(w) "Lohit
Punjabi"(w) "Lohit Tamil"(w) "Meera"(w) "Lohit
Malayalam"(w) "Lohit Kannada"(w)
"Lohit Telugu"(w) "Lohit Oriya"(w) "LKLUG"(w)
"Mingzat"(w) "Padauk"(w) "Noto
Sans Mandaic"(w) "Noto Sans Tai Tham"(w) "Noto Sans Tai Viet"(w)
"Nuosu SIL"(w)
"FreeSans"(w) "FreeSans"(w) "Arial Unicode MS"(w)
"Arial Unicode"(w)
"Code2000"(w) "Code2001"(w) "sans-serif"(w)
"Roya"(w) "Koodak"(w) "Terafik"(w)
"sans-serif"(w) "sans-serif"(w) "sans-serif"(w)
"sans-serif"(w) "sans-serif"(w)
"sans-serif"(w) "sans-serif"(w) "sans-serif"(w)
"sans-serif"(w)
"sans-serif"(w), "Helvetica"(w) "Helvetica Narrow"(w)
slant: 1 0(i)(s), 0(i)(w)
weight: 1 100(i)(s), 100(i)(w)
width: 1 100(i)(s), 100(i)(w)
lang: 1 "en"(w),
aa|ay|bi|br|ch|co|da|de|en|es|et|eu|fi|fj|fo|fr|fur|fy|gd|gl|gv|ho|ia|id|ie|io|is|it|lb|mg|nb|nds|nl|nn|no|nr|nso|oc|om|pt|rm|sma|smj|so|sq|ss|st|sv|sw|tl|tn|ts|uz|vo|vot|wa|xh|yap|zu|an|fil|ht|jv|kj|kwm|li|ms|ng|pap-an|pap-aw|rn|rw|sc|sg|sn|su|za(w)
fontversion: 2.14742e+12 2147483647(i)(s), 65536(i)(w)
decorative: 1 False(s), False(w)
Score 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 12 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 2.14742e+12
Font 122 Pattern has 22 elts (size 22)
family: "Helvetica"(w)
familylang: "en"(w)
style: "Regular"(w)
stylelang: "en"(w)
fullname: "Helvetica"(w)
fullnamelang: "en"(w)
slant: 0(i)(w)
weight: 100(i)(w)
width: 100(i)(w)
foundry: "unknown"(w)
file: "/usr/share/fonts/macos/Helvetica.ttf"(w)
index: 0(i)(w)
outline: True(w)
scalable: True(w)
charset:
0000: 00000000 ffffffff ffffffff 7fffffff 00000000 ff5fdffe ffffffff
ffffffff
0001: 00000000 00020000 000c0006 61000003 00040000 00000000 00000000
00000000
0002: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 3f0000c0
00000000
0003: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 10000000 00000000
00000000
0020: 77180000 06010047 00000010 00000000 00000000 00001000 00000000
00000000
0021: 00000000 00000004 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000000
0022: 00040000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000000
00fb: 00000006 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000000
(w)
lang:
aa|ay|bi|br|ch|co|da|de|en|es|et|eu|fi|fj|fo|fr|fur|fy|gd|gl|gv|ho|ia|id|ie|io|is|it|lb|mg|nb|nds|nl|nn|no|nr|nso|oc|om|pt|rm|sma|smj|so|sq|ss|st|sv|sw|tl|tn|ts|uz|vo|vot|wa|xh|yap|zu|an|fil|ht|jv|kj|kwm|li|ms|ng|pap-an|pap-aw|rn|rw|sc|sg|sn|su|za(w)
fontversion: 65536(i)(w)
capability: "otlayout:latn"(w)
fontformat: "TrueType"(w)
decorative: False(w)
hash:
"sha256:22e6b0ab68b66d28ed39ed3b4613cedb31e79a3bebeb025b1b4a1a6243766578"(w)
postscriptname: "Helvetica"(w)
family: 1 "Helvetica"(s) "DejaVu Sans"(w) "PT Sans"(w)
"Liberation Sans
Narrow"(w) "Bitstream Vera Sans"(w) "DejaVu Sans"(w)
"Verdana"(w) "Arial"(w)
"Albany AMT"(w) "Luxi Sans"(w) "Nimbus Sans L"(w)
"Helvetica"(w) "Lucida Sans
Unicode"(w) "BPG Glaho International"(w) "Tahoma"(w)
"Carlito"(w) "Droid
Sans"(w) "Nachlieli"(w) "Lucida Sans Unicode"(w) "Yudit
Unicode"(w) "Kerkis"(w)
"ArmNet Helvetica"(w) "Artsounk"(w) "BPG UTF8 M"(w)
"Waree"(w) "Loma"(w)
"Garuda"(w) "Umpush"(w) "Saysettha Unicode"(w) "JG Lao
Old Arial"(w) "GF Zemen
Unicode"(w) "Pigiarniq"(w) "B Davat"(w) "B Compset"(w)
"Kacst-Qr"(w) "Urdu
Nastaliq Unicode"(w) "Raghindi"(w) "Mukti Narrow"(w)
"malayalam"(w)
"Sampige"(w) "padmaa"(w) "Hapax Berbère"(w) "MS
Gothic"(w) "UmePlus P
Gothic"(w) "SimSun"(w) "PMingLiu"(w) "WenQuanYi Zen
Hei"(w) "WenQuanYi Bitmap
Song"(w) "AR PL ShanHeiSun Uni"(w) "AR PL New Sung"(w)
"MgOpen Modata"(w) "VL
Gothic"(w) "IPAMonaGothic"(w) "IPAGothic"(w) "Sazanami
Gothic"(w) "Kochi
Gothic"(w) "AR PL KaitiM GB"(w) "AR PL KaitiM Big5"(w) "AR
PL ShanHeiSun
Uni"(w) "AR PL SungtiL GB"(w) "AR PL Mingti2L Big5"(w) "ＭＳ
ゴシック"(w)
"ZYSong18030"(w) "TSCu_Paranar"(w) "NanumGothic"(w)
"UnDotum"(w) "Baekmuk
Dotum"(w) "Baekmuk Gulim"(w) "KacstQura"(w) "Lohit
Bengali"(w) "Lohit
Gujarati"(w) "Lohit Hindi"(w) "Lohit Marathi"(w) "Lohit
Maithili"(w) "Lohit
Kashmiri"(w) "Lohit Konkani"(w) "Lohit Nepali"(w) "Lohit
Sindhi"(w) "Lohit
Punjabi"(w) "Lohit Tamil"(w) "Meera"(w) "Lohit
Malayalam"(w) "Lohit Kannada"(w)
"Lohit Telugu"(w) "Lohit Oriya"(w) "LKLUG"(w)
"Mingzat"(w) "Padauk"(w) "Noto
Sans Mandaic"(w) "Noto Sans Tai Tham"(w) "Noto Sans Tai Viet"(w)
"Nuosu SIL"(w)
"FreeSans"(w) "FreeSans"(w) "Arial Unicode MS"(w)
"Arial Unicode"(w)
"Code2000"(w) "Code2001"(w) "sans-serif"(w)
"Roya"(w) "Koodak"(w) "Terafik"(w)
"sans-serif"(w) "sans-serif"(w) "sans-serif"(w)
"sans-serif"(w) "sans-serif"(w)
"sans-serif"(w) "sans-serif"(w) "sans-serif"(w)
"sans-serif"(w)
"sans-serif"(w), "Helvetica"(w)
slant: 1 0(i)(s), 0(i)(w)
weight: 1 100(i)(s), 100(i)(w)
width: 1 100(i)(s), 100(i)(w)
lang: 1 "en"(w),
aa|ay|bi|br|ch|co|da|de|en|es|et|eu|fi|fj|fo|fr|fur|fy|gd|gl|gv|ho|ia|id|ie|io|is|it|lb|mg|nb|nds|nl|nn|no|nr|nso|oc|om|pt|rm|sma|smj|so|sq|ss|st|sv|sw|tl|tn|ts|uz|vo|vot|wa|xh|yap|zu|an|fil|ht|jv|kj|kwm|li|ms|ng|pap-an|pap-aw|rn|rw|sc|sg|sn|su|za(w)
fontversion: 2.14742e+12 2147483647(i)(s), 65536(i)(w)
decorative: 1 False(s), False(w)
Score 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 12 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 2.14742e+12
Both has the same score on that query:
Score 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 12 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 2.14742e+12
Score 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 12 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 2.14742e+12
So that returns the first one. plus, apparently you have an alias of Helvetica
for Helvetica-Narrow. this isn't a bug then.
For a workaround, you should drop Regular from style for Helvetica Narrow and
set a style to the query to match on the better one.
<match target="scan">
<test name="family"><string>Helvetica
Narrow</string></test>
<test name="style"><string>Regular</string></test>
<edit name="style" mode="delete"/>
</match>
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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1164177] fontconfig does not properly match Helvetica
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1164177
--- Comment #3 from Matt Hirsch <matthew.hirsch(a)gmail.com> ---
Akira,
Thanks for your explanation. I'm certainly not an expert on fonts or
fontconfig, but it does seem like there might be a bug here. The font, as it
comes from Adobe has the following fields set under "TTF Names" (according to
fontforge):
Copyright: (copyright text)
Family: Helvetica Narrow
Styles (SubFamily): Regular
UniqueID: Helvetica Narrow:44711
Fullname: Helvetica-Narrow
Version: 003.001
Preferred Family: Helvetica
Preferred Styles: Narrow
I don't know if there is a standard for how these should be formally
interprited. As they are written they make sense to me: this font is the
"Regular" style for the narrow version of Helvetica. There are also bold, etc.
styles of Narrow. fc-match is taking the style (apparently) from both the
"Preferred Styles" field and the "Styles (SubFamily)" field and
treating them
the same way. For complex font families like Helvetica I can see why this
causes problems.
Further, I have no alias on my system mapping Helvetica-Narrow to Helvetica, as
you said. It would seem fc-match is getting that from the "Preferred Family"
field. I can edit the font with fontforge to resolve both of those problems,
but I don't think that's the right solution. We shouldn't ask everyone in
Fedora to manually edit (or create fontconfig rules for) very standard fonts
like Helvetica.
The bug I linked from launchpad would seem to indicate that Ubuntu is patching
fontconfig to solve this problem.
Again, thanks for your consideration. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts,
and perhaps re-open the bug?
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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1164177] fontconfig does not properly match Helvetica
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1164177
Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Status|CLOSED |NEW
Resolution|NOTABUG |---
Keywords| |Reopened
--- Comment #4 from Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com> ---
Thanks for more information. let me take a look then.
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New subject: [Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 1164177] fontconfig does not properly match Helvetica
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--- Comment #5 from Akira TAGOH <tagoh(a)redhat.com> ---
(In reply to Matt Hirsch from comment #3)
The bug I linked from launchpad would seem to indicate that Ubuntu
is
patching fontconfig to solve this problem.
There was no patches related to this issue in Ubuntu's. so what I can suggest
to avoid this situation is, a) as I said the above comment, you could modify
the cache with the fontconfig rule at comment#2. you don't even need to modify
a font itself by the editor. b) add more pattern to narrow down the result.
Further, I have no alias on my system mapping Helvetica-Narrow to
Helvetica,
as you said. It would seem fc-match is getting that from the "Preferred
Family" field.
Yes, indeed fontconfig does. so the result against querying a font with that
pattern is correct as long as a font has "Helvetica" as the family name.
As a result, I'm afraid I'd say it isn't a bug then.
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