[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 885997] New: unable add "input source" in"Region&language"

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Bug ID: 885997
           Summary: unable add "input source" in"Region&language"
           Product: Fedora
           Version: 18
         Component: ibus
          Severity: unspecified
          Priority: unspecified
          Reporter: [e-mail]

Description of problem:

Make a default install, after reboot,I try to add"Chinese" to the "Input
Sources"
of "Region&Language",it seems to be added succesfully,but I am unable to type
"Chinese".Actually,Japanese is the same.
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
f18 Final TC1 X86_64

How reproducible:

100%
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Expected results:

Additional info:

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--- Comment #1 from fujiwara  ---
Did you add libpinyin or pinyin with "gnome-control-center region" command?

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--- Comment #2 from lnie  ---
yesterday,I started the"Region&Language" by click the coin
of"Region&Language".Today I started it by the command"gnome-control-center
region",and try to add"Chinese"into the "input source".this time it seems even
worse than the first way:Chinese is unable to be added to the list(the first
way can added Chinese to the list).
What's more,there is warning message say:failed to commit changes to the dconf

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--- Comment #3 from fujiwara  ---
I think you use gnome-shell.

Which locale do you use?

Probably I guess ibus-daemon is not running until you run gnome-control-center.

Does your problem is that the first launching gnome-control-center only?
If you quit gnome-control-center and run gnome-control-center again with an
interval, The Chinese is shown?

And
> Did you add libpinyin or pinyin with "gnome-control-center region" command?

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--- Comment #4 from lnie  ---
Maybe I haven't displayed it clearly.My problem is not launching
gnome-control-center.The problem is that Chinese can not been added to
the"input source"list after gnome-control-center is launched.
What's more ,when I start the"Region&Language"(the same as
gnome-control-center) by clicking the icon ,I am able to add Chinese to
the"input source"list.But I can not type Chinese even though I choose the
langage mode on the top-right corner from "en"to "zh".

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--- Comment #5 from fujiwara  ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> Maybe I haven't displayed it clearly.My problem is not launching
> gnome-control-center.The problem is that Chinese can not been added to
> the"input source"list after gnome-control-center is launched.
> What's more ,when I start the"Region&Language"(the same as
> gnome-control-center) by clicking the icon ,I am able to add Chinese to
> the"input source"list.But I can not type Chinese even though I choose the
> langage mode on the top-right corner from "en"to "zh".

I don't ask those and I cannot reproduce your problem.
Please answer my question.
> I think you use gnome-shell.
>
> Which locale do you use?
>
> Probably I guess ibus-daemon is not running until you run
> gnome-control-center.
>
> Does your problem is that the first launching gnome-control-center only?
> If you quit gnome-control-center and run gnome-control-center again with an
> interval, The Chinese is shown?
>
> And
> > Did you add libpinyin or pinyin with "gnome-control-center region" command?

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--- Comment #6 from lnie  ---
Er,I have tried it again just now,I am able to add"Chinese(Intelligent
pinyin)"to the list,and can type Chinese after I change "zh"to"拼"。Yesterday，I
just tried to add"Chinese"to the list,and it seems to be added successfully,but
can not type.
It is really confused.Maybe, 1)Chinese should be deleted  from the list,as it
dose not stand for any input method(Chinse(Intelligent pinyin)stands for the
"In telligent pinyin"input method) ;2)"zh"should not appear on the top-right
corner.

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--- Comment #7 from Mathieu Bridon  ---
(In reply to comment #6)
> Er,I have tried it again just now,I am able to add"Chinese(Intelligent
> pinyin)"to the list,and can type Chinese after I change
> "zh"to"拼"。Yesterday，I just tried to add"Chinese"to the list,and it seems to
> be added successfully,but can not type.
> It is really confused.Maybe, 1)Chinese should be deleted  from the list,as
> it dose not stand for any input method(Chinse(Intelligent pinyin)stands for
> the "In telligent pinyin"input method)

I think what confused you is that the « Chinese » entry which you selected is
afaik not a Chinese input method: it is a « Chinese keyboard layout ».

Except that there is no such thing as a « Chinese keyboard layout », this one
is merely a US layout branded as « Chinese ».

I absolutely agree that it should be removed, or at least hidden, as it is
incredibly confusing, and completely useless.

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          Component|ibus                        |control-center
           Assignee|[e-mail]         |control-center-maint@redhat
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            Summary|unable add "input source"   |cannot distinguish keyboard
                   |in"Region&language"         |layouts from ibus engines
                   |                            |in Input Sources
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--- Comment #8 from Jens Petersen  ---
Right - at least in gnome-3.8 input engines are now listed with an icon
next to them to distinguish them from keyboard layouts.  We also talked
about moving the layout preview and engine config buttons into the
Input Sources list.

I don't know what keyboard layouts gnome is filtering currently
but I agree they really need to be reviewed and filtered more.

eg "Japanese (PC98xx series)" could probably be hidden.

The problem is this really requires review by experienced native users
for each country so it is hard to get it all done - at the
same time legacy layouts can't really be removed from X since
a few people might still have those old keyboards in use
but perhaps they could be labelled old/deprecated/out-of-production/
obscure(?), etc in xkeyboard-config.

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--- Comment #10 from Mathieu Bridon  ---
This still applies in Fedora 20.

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--- Comment #11 from fujiwara  ---
OK, now I understand the problem.
I think the description is fixed in f20 because a new icon is listed for ibus
engines on add table UI.
If 'cn' layout needs to be removed in gnome-control-center, it would be a bug
in gnome-control-center.

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--- Comment #12 from fujiwara  ---
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721006

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