[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 528360] New: Korean input does not function on Western keyboards

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Summary: Korean input does not function on Western keyboards

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           Summary: Korean input does not function on Western keyboards
           Product: Fedora
           Version: 11
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: medium
          Priority: low
         Component: ibus-hangul
        AssignedTo: phuang(a)redhat.com
        ReportedBy: techwritebos(a)yahoo.com
         QAContact: extras-qa(a)fedoraproject.org
                CC: wtogami(a)redhat.com, phuang(a)redhat.com,
                    fedora-i18n-bugs(a)redhat.com
   Estimated Hours: 0.0
    Classification: Fedora


Description of problem:  Currently, there appears to be no way to enter Korean
via Ibus in a western keyboard.  For example, in scim, one could use the
"romaja" option and enter the letters "r" "a" and get the
korean character "라" 
There is currently no similar feature for Ibus, which means one has to know the
Korean keyboard layout (most likely, only used by Koreans on Korean computers
in Korea).


Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):


How reproducible:  Very.


Steps to Reproduce:
1.  Start ibus (with ibus-hangul installed)
2.  type romaja characters
3.  You get Korean-keyboard-based garbage.

Actual results:  For the letters "r" "a" for example, the actual
results are: ㄱ
ㅁ 


Expected results: 라



Additional info:  I believe this functionality can be achieved by returning to
old SCIM input method, using scim-lang-korean, scim-m17n, and scim-m17n-devel;
however, if Ibus is the new default and the preferred method, it needs to have
this very basic functionality added.  In the Japanese Anthy, this is standard
and works perfectly.  It's odd and frustrating that Korean has not been given
the same level of attention.

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             Status|NEW                         |CLOSED
                 CC|                            |petersen(a)redhat.com
         Resolution|                            |NOTABUG




--- Comment #1 from Jens Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com&gt;  2009-11-03 22:31:15 EDT
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yum install m17n-db-korean (and ibus-m17n (it is installed by default),
and just add the input method to your list with ibus Preferences.

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[Fedora-i18n-bugs] [Bug 528360] install m17n-db-korean by default for Hangul romaja input method

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           Keywords|                            |Reopened
             Status|CLOSED                      |ASSIGNED
            Version|11                          |rawhide
         Resolution|NOTABUG                     |
            Summary|Korean input does not       |install m17n-db-korean by
                   |function on Western         |default for Hangul romaja
                   |keyboards                   |input method




--- Comment #2 from Jens Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com&gt;  2009-11-03 22:36:04 EDT
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Perhaps we should install it by default?

(Of course would be nice if ibus-hangul supported
romaja input, though I think upstream is not keen on that.)

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          Component|ibus-hangul                 |comps
         AssignedTo|phuang(a)redhat.com           |notting(a)redhat.com
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--- Comment #4 from Jens Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com&gt;  2009-11-24 19:57:52 EDT
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I am sure if we want to really install m17n-db-korean for all users.

I don't see any change here from the scim days: scim-lang-korean
didn't pull in m17n-db-korean so guess you must have installed it
yourself - it has always been optional in comps.

I agree it would be nice for ibus-hangul to support Romaja input
but scim-hangul didn't either AFAIK?

(Whether we should install more m17n maps by default a la Ubuntu
is really another question.)

So I am tempted to close this not a bug.

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--- Comment #5 from techwritebos(a)yahoo.com  2009-11-24 20:08:47 EDT ---
When I posted my comment on FedoraForum people suggested to file it as a bug. 
I'm not sure it's actually a bug, but not being able to use a western keyboard
to input Korean is a huge problem in an international, multi-lingual context
where both native and non-native speakers are using a variety of language input
methods.

If someone installs Korean input there should be an automatic addition of the
input method mapping that works on a QWERTY keyboard.  In the past, I used a
rpm called scim-tables-ko which provided this.  Ibus seems to have this in the
i17n-db-korean but it took a while for me to figure this out and install it.  

Again, I'm not trying to say it's a bug per se.  But people suggested I file it
here and so I did.  But I really DO hope people will consider adding QWERTY
support for the various non-English languages.  Japanese does this
automatically.  Why shouldn't Korean?

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--- Comment #6 from Jens Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com&gt;  2009-12-06 19:26:03 EDT
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(In reply to comment #5)
>  Japanese does this automatically.  Why shouldn't Korean?  
I don't know maybe it is a continental thing.

Japanese use romaji input by default these days at least on Linux,
but this is not true for Hangul: it seems romaja input is only
used by foreigner so quite a different situation.

In the past when romaja input was RFE'd in libhangul upstream
basically said no... hope that helps to explain the current
situation.

I am thinking to add m17n-db-korean as a conditional package
in the korean-support group in comps to help with this though.
It would installed if you select Korean support, do a Korean install
or yum install @korean-support.

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--- Comment #7 from Jens Petersen <petersen(a)redhat.com&gt;  2009-12-06 19:34:30 EDT
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Done in comps-f13 - thanks for the report.

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